--- In [email protected], "Jim Ley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> The XML RSS feeds are broken all over the place, the HTML world, 
well just 
> about anything can render that.
> 
> There's no obvious reason why the rendering needs to be shipped 
around as 
> XML.
> 
> Jim.
>

you are absolutley right, who said SVG was the only rendering system? 
not me

I was talking about why is XML is better for SVG than any other mark-
up, particuarly if SVG is to grow into a mature rendering mark-up 
that is part of a component based semantic web that replaces HTML, 
eventually, because HTML needs to be more than just a rendering mark-
up. It's not a technical issue. If XML is the common markup for this 
symantic matrix of data, transformations, queries, etc then SVG, as a 
mature UI rendering system should be too. 

Having a common semantic across different functions of the document 
object model, including rendering, is good: everything is parsed for 
validation once, by one process, before it gets distributed for 
construction - standardisation like this should result in 
less 'rejection' - that fact that we are not making anything does not 
mean rejects don't cost money. It is, in economic terms and within a 
broad statistical framework, efficient for SVG to be in XML, as the 
common rendering markup of the semantic web. That was my point, not 
that its a technical requirement. And it really is an humble opinion: 
in preparing this answer I have rehersed the case for and I still 
think it make sense for SVG to be in XML, and it I think it will 
become as instrisicin in the prevailing economic mode as fordism 
was/is to manufacturing era.

The only reason to adopt an alternative mark-up for SVG is that 
current one -XML, what everything else is being shipped in - is not 
adequate because it is not specialised enough - e.g for Math, CAD, 
Chemistry, etc - or its verbosity is a source of congestion where 
something more streamlined might be in order. But if you think 
otherwise I would like to know has your view is highly regarded here. 

And that so much RSS is broken hardly matters - its mostly terminated 
anyway. It arrives at the final consumer and if it's broken but 
consumable who cares? Not the consumer. However if your repackaging 
data for forward use - like Reuters RSS feeds for example - the 
source has to work, it can't be broken... having it comply and 
validate in XML is necessary thing...

But thanks for the challenge, it was interesting to think this through

Garry 





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