--- In [email protected], Ronan Oger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Francis, > > Before going too far out on a limb and running off your mouth about what the > W3C should or should not do, you might want to read up on what the W3C is. > > The W3C is not a public organization set up for the general good of society. > Far from it. It is a membership-based club for promoting technologies that > benefit the club participants. Within the W3C, competing groups fight to get > their ideas in and to keep competing ideas out.
<FH> It seems there is a fox in hen house. Does it take a rocket scientist to see the MS has taken XML, fiddled with it to make it better (XAML THE CAMEL), and of course, has no incentive to then further support XML at W3C. Should we applaud their finesse? > Instead of ranting into the wind about open-source development and complaining > about the free work others should do to help you earn money (ASV is free, and > you seem to be benefiting commercially from this, no?), maybe you should > consider one or more of the following options: > > 1) stop complaining, and work with the free tools provided to you find them, > taking responsibility for your own strategic errors in technological > dependency choices <FH>My so-called strategic errors, are still open to the fickle furture...they may, of course be errors, but then again, they may be considered prohpetic:) > 2) join the W3C and try to change the future of SVG to your advantage > > 3) pay someone to build you an SVG browser that *you* can offer free to the > public domain. I'm sure you can get this done for 1/2 million Euro or less. <FH>Come on, Ronan, no matter how great an SVG browser may be, unless it is provided in the MS operating system, it'll remain a "10 percenter" > 4) move on to another technology. Maybe start using Java applets, Flash, pdf, > or bitmap animations to show your data. Hey, you could even simply send it by > fax and forego both the W3C *and* ICANN. <FH>funny...But I like SVG as much as you do. Merry Christmas, Francis > Cheers, > > Ronan > > On Saturday 17 December 2005 04:35, Francis Hemsher wrote: > > Hi Sherm, > > I guess you sent this as a statement from Adobe as a positive > > indication of their continuing support of SVG. > > > > The following quote from below "to meet the needs of customers and > > partners" tells me as, an open-source developer, to expect diddly > > from Adobe in the true future of SVG. > > > > In my opinion, they have every incentive to undermine SVG's success. > > Along with XAML the Camel, they used W3C to first establish the > > basis for their products, and then abandonded support of both XML > > and SVG to reduce open-source competition for their products. > > > > I think W3C should sue their butts for using and manipulating their > > technology, and providing no compensation. > > > > Francis > > > > --- In [email protected], "Sherm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From the Adobe website > > > > http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/adobeandmacromedia_faq.h > > tm > > > > > l > > > > > > How does Adobe's acquisition of Macromedia affect Adobe's support > > > > of > > > > > SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics)? > > > > > > Both Adobe and Macromedia have been part of the W3C working group > > > > that > > > > > defined the SVG-t specification. While Flash and Flash Lite have > > > gained critical momentum with customers and partners worldwide, > > > particularly in the fast-growing mobile market, we recognize that > > > > both > > > > > SVG and Flash have had success globally. As a result, Adobe will > > > continue to support the display of popular graphics standards, > > > including SVG-t and Flash, to meet the needs of customers and > > > > partners > > > > > worldwide. > > > > ----- > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- > > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > > membership" ---- > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Computer internet security Computer internet business Computer internet > > access Computer internet privacy securities Computer internet help How > > to format a computer hard drive > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "svg-developers" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > -- > Ronan Oger > Director > RO IT Systems GmbH > ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001 > > Direct: +41 76 527 3552 > Fax: +41 44 274 2402 > > http://www.roitsystems.com > > -- > Ronan Oger > Director > RO IT Systems GmbH > ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001 > > http://www.roitsystems.com > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/.QUssC/izNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

