How many people use Microsoft Office? Visual Studios? Just playing devils advocate here.
Alastair --- In [email protected], Andrei Thomaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > anyway, who would leave dreamweaver/flash for Microsoft Expression? It seems > it will work only in a 100% Windows environment... > > []'s > andrei > > > On 1/28/06, Alastair Fettes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > 1. How can a "tool" be a competitor to SVG when SVG is a language > > > format, not a tool? > > > > A: Its XAML with an IDE for GUI building. What does SVG have? > > > > > 2. If Sparkle is a great tool that produces output in an XML language > > > such as XAML, what is to stop designers from using it as a tool and > > > then simply translating the output to SVG? > > > > Well, thats easy enough. The vector graphic part is easy enough with > > an XSLT to change Circle to circle (lol), but as far as the windowing > > components go what do you have to go to? SPARK (not sparkle) *could* > > work, but this is no where near a complete windowing set. > > > > Let me illustrate my answer: > > > > Sample XAML Document 1: > > ----------------------- > > (from > > < > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnintlong/html/longhornch03.asp > > >) > > > > <Canvas xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/2003/xaml"; > > > <Rectangle > > Fill="#33CC66" > > Width="2in" Height="1in" > > Canvas.Top="25" Canvas.Left="50" > > StrokeThickness="6px" Stroke="Orange" /> > > <Ellipse > > Fill="yellow" > > CenterX="1.5in" CenterY="1.1in" > > RadiusX=".5in" RadiusY="1in" > > StrokeThickness="4px" Stroke="Blue" /> > > <Text > > Canvas.Top="50" Canvas.Left="60" Foreground="#000000" > > FontWeight="Bold" FontFamily="Arial" > > FontStyle="Normal" FontSize="25">Hello Shapes!</Text> > > </Canvas> > > > > Ok, that's easy enough to transform from XAML to SVG. > > > > Sample XAML Document 2: > > ----------------------- > > (from same location as above) > > > > <Border > > xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/2003/xaml"; > > xmlns:animC="animC" > > xmlns:animF="animF" > > xmlns:def="Definition" > > Background="BlanchedAlmond"> > > <Canvas Height="400" Width="400"> > > <TransformDecorator Canvas.Top="200" Canvas.Left="100"> > > <TransformDecorator.Transform> > > <TransformCollection> > > <RotateTransform Angle="135"> > > <RotateTransform.AngleAnimations> > > <animC:DoubleAnimationCollection> > > <animC:DoubleAnimation From="0" To="360" Duration="4" > > AutoReverse="True" > > RepeatDuration="Indefinite"/> > > </animC:DoubleAnimationCollection> > > > > </RotateTransform.AngleAnimations> > > > > </RotateTransform> > > </TransformCollection> > > </TransformDecorator.Transform> > > > > <ListBox > > > <ListItem> ListItem 1 </ListItem> > > <ListItem> ListItem 2 </ListItem> > > <ListItem> ListItem 3 </ListItem> > > </ListBox> > > </TransformDecorator> > > > > <Button Width="40" Canvas.Top="10" Canvas.Left="10"> > > <Button.Width> > > <animF:LengthAnimationCollection> > > <animF:LengthAnimation From="40" To="300" > > AutoReverse="true" Begin="1" Duration="1.2" > > RepeatDuration="Indefinite"/> > > </animF:LengthAnimationCollection> > > </Button.Width> > > Button > > </Button> > > > > </Canvas> > > </Border> > > > > ooo, not quite so easy (unless all of a sudden people start helping me > > with SPARK! :P). > > > > Alastair > > > > --- In [email protected], "dr_marvin_marshall" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Andrew, > > > > > > 1. How can a "tool" be a competitor to SVG when SVG is a language > > > format, not a tool? > > > > > > > > 2. If Sparkle is a great tool that produces output in an XML language > > > such as XAML, what is to stop designers from using it as a tool and > > > then simply translating the output to SVG? > > > > > > /\/\arvin > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > A few weeks back I mentioned Microsoft's Sparkle > > > >(Expression Interactive Designer) tool for designing > > > > with XAML. > > > > > > > . > > > . > > > . > > > > > > > > People who are interested can play with the tool and draw > > > > their own conclusions about how big (or not) a competitor > > > > it will be to SVG. > > > > > > > > Andrew Watt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -or- > > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > > membership" > > ---- > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Xml format<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Xml+format&w1=Xml+format&w2=Svg&w3=Format&w4=Data&c=4&s=47&.sig=VBa7nBOoFldLj1xsnDMzkQ> > > Svg<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Svg&w1=Xml+format&w2=Svg&w3=Format&w4=Data&c=4&s=47&.sig=a1u0zJydFxGsmrBvlURQ4w> > > Format<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Format&w1=Xml+format&w2=Svg&w3=Format&w4=Data&c=4&s=47&.sig=sfOdgu_KzJjmF4YOGYLFuw> > > Data<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Data&w1=Xml+format&w2=Svg&w3=Format&w4=Data&c=4&s=47&.sig=aV25K06F7rKa6A2bKQrzpA> > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! 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