--- In [email protected], Ronan Oger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 01 February 2006 12:59, Bru, Pierre wrote: > > > I fail to understand why you would want to build a plugin > > > from scratch for SVG when instead you could contribute to > > > Mozilla's SVG team, or Konqueror's SVG team, which are open > > > source, and help those implementation get better. > > > > does FF1.5/Mozilla/Konqueror implementation allows to draw SVG on a > > transparent background to overlap an existing zone, for exemple to draw > > a route on a map, as do Google on Gmap with MS private vector language? > > > > Pierre. > > > > I believe so. I asked this question last month to this list, and got a > positive answer. Anyways, one thing is certain: what Google Maps does with > VML and transparent images on top of a tiled set of raster images,people > routinely do with SVG in the webmapping context. Check carto.net for numerous > examples of this... > > Anyways, here is a trivial example of dynamic overlays over maps (clunky and > rough, but I hope you get the point that this already can be done... All the > data points are delivered real-time from an external server. > > http://www.roitsystems.com/SVG-Widgets/navigation/ShipAutomation.svg > > It's kind of clunky, and the underlying image is statically located, but that > is simply because I spent 3 days on this demo... > > And it works on any implementation that supports script access to the DOM or > to the uDOM, and xmlhttprequest or GetURL. > > The key point I am attempting to make is that the community would be better > served by interested developers supporting and extending existing SVG > implementations rather than by going out on and starting Yet Another > Implementation... > > Ask any SVG browser developer, and you will get the same answer: it's not that > simple. The trivial stuff like static SVG is fine, but that's not enough, and > is not SVG1.2 or SVGT1.2 compliant, so static implementations are really of > no interest to anyone. And anyways, there are too many static SVG > implementations to list. > > It took Mozilla 3 years toget to where they are today, and anyone who thinks > they can do better from scratch is kidding themeselves. There are plenty of > existing solutions out there... let's help the developers working on those > implementations rather than making their task even harder by competing > against them. > > Finally, if you want a feature you can't find in your favorite opensource SVG > implementation, why not request a feature and get some people together to > fund the work? A little financial sponsorship goes a long way in open > source... > > Ronan > > -- > Ronan Oger > Director > RO IT Systems GmbH > ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001 > > http://www.roitsystems.com >
Hi Roman. 1- I Am glad that you have fixed the "blank link" of your web-site. 2- The purpose of The forum is to "SHARE Knowledge" "Good stub" they may not fit you but it may fit someone else. We invest our effort to fit our in-house need first. If we see it then we share. We also want to acheive something that we are unabled to get from othe off-the shelf /opensource. WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING GOOD WE SHARE. Example: You may not need the SVG stub but someone else may need a cabitlity to generate the realtime/On-the-fly very--very dynamic graphic capabilty without the round trip back/forth from the server--> TOO SLOW - Certainly it fit our "GAMES SOFTWARE". FLASH???? Not dynamic enough. 3-As you say It take FF 3 years to have SVG implemented this far. --TOO LONG--- my business can't wait that long. 4-I have seen wish list(s) and I have spent time to study I mean hacking the code of the opensource(s) before We decide do our own. It's simply not fit the requirement of our "Client". 5-Time will tell and the community will judge either I am belong the the group of someone "kidding themeselves" or ..... ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

