This is Quote from ADOBE's people from this Forum few days back.

"Are you asking whether DENG uses the Macromedia Flash Player as its
rendering engine? If so, then yes it does. Most consumers already have
this installed, so it gives you a wider audience range for clientside
playback." -

- Wider than JavaScript?

This is a "cheap shot" to present the "FALSE FACT".

(1) DENG Using SVG.

(2) The purpose is to play down efforts that can do SVG play back. - SVG is
free format while FLASH: on its specication denies "YOU" to read in order to
write "play back".

As I have said and demonstrate that we/anyone can have hi/her SVG rendering
using only JavaScript. Base on our benchmark, Its speed is competitive to
the AVG. Even it use the interpreter mode.
Who is winning here. ? ? ?

On 3/23/06, gnylarichard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ermm
>
> Funny this, what are my views on actionscript 3 and the death of SVG
>
> Not much. For example how many full flash proper applications have you
> seen (not many, not proper ones)
>
> How long has flash been around? 10 years, maybe more so why isnt the
> web 90% flash driven? I have not seen any proper corporate proper full
> flash driven sites.
>
> Why isnt the www.bbc.co.uk flash driven, ebay, microsoft, dell, what
> about Tescos.co.uk, why isnt that.
>
> How many flash deselopers (design developers) around? apparently 1
> million, which is sod all and macrodobey admit this is crap.
>
> I used flash extensively for 5 years and now I deal with many large
> corporate and fortune500 companies, mention flash, all fall on floor
> laughing.
>
> We are talking serious companies, flash has the image of 14 year old
> boys messing with circles and text and moving them. Its software to
> make adverts, nothing else.
>
> I am talking from experience and many PROPER developers would not
> touch flash, why do you think MacroDobey are trying to figure out a
> way of getting developers to use flex etc... no chance, not with
> proper developers and 14yr old that cant affords flex
>
> I loved flash until 3 years ago (i did flashverts) and i turned to SVG
> - oh by the way i have i nice car outside bcos of it.
>
> What i find funny is that when xaml comes out it will strengthen svg
> and xaml for both microsoft and SVG and leave the 14yr olds to move
> circles and text around with the words "look how cool this is" in flash
>
> I went to a conference with top developers (some of the biggest names
> in the UK and basically no one gives a Sh**t about flash)
>
> Marodobey are missing the point - Include SVG in flash and you compete
> with XAML through the flash player. Dont include it and XAML will take
> over in the business apps side.
>
> It will leave MacroDobey with a target audience of 12-16 year olds,
> leaving the proper stuff to SVG and XAML
>
> Also - two of the top companies who I work with have a turnover of
> over 700 million have flash disabled on all PC's in the entire
> company. The websites use animated gifs for any small animation if
> required.
>
> I personally think that XAML will be good for SVG cos some clever
> person will write a translation between the two and they will both be
> the winners.


Graphically speaking  XAML and SVG is the same. At the basic. There is only
shape, line and curve.

Richard



Cheers

Phi

--- In [email protected], "James C. Deering"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In [email protected], "Chuck" <sunnylachuck@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This just appeared on the adobe website and seems to indicate that
> > > ADOBE has plans to aggressively market flash as the vector format of
> > > choice.
> > >
> > >
> http://labs.macromedia.com/wiki/index.php/ActionScript_3:overview#Action
> > > Script_3.0_Overview
> > >
> > > I like to keep an open mind but I do not think SVG will ever be
> > > practicle for commercial high-performance RIA's. I have been waiting
> > > for years for a platform independent persitent sockets only to be
> > > frustrated having to settle for the AJAX hack.
> > >
> > > With flash features such as XMLsocket and SPRITE class there are real
> > > possibilities for creating large scale component based SCADA gui's
> > > granted that the actionscript and flash player performance is
> improved.
> > > According to the announcement you can expect up to 10x performance
> soon.
> >
> > I've been waiting for someone to market a SVG application builder
> for years. Once "Flash"
> > has the ability to present SVG in a protected environment with full
> scalability, I'll be happy
> > and ready to rock. Hope it's sooner then later.
> >
> > James
> > http://deerring.com
> >
>
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