Hi geoffrey,

I fail to understand on what basis you make this claim.  Are you sure you are 
not confusing 'bad browser' with 'badly written, illegal svg code that still 
"works" on ASV'?

FF1.5 and better have excellent SVG support. Please cite examples.

I have been using FF1.5 and Batik as my main SVG viewing solutions for over 1 
year now, and rarely have a problem with *legal* svg content.

Ronan

On Monday 10 April 2006 04:12, Geoffrey Swenson wrote:
> My limited experience so far with Firefox’s SVG implementation leads me to
> believe that it is so buggy and incomplete that it is useless. I’d rather
> try to force it to use the Adobe plugin. Mozilla seems totally incapable of
> running the Adobe plugin, and Opera runs it but with lots of bugs.
>
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> Geoffrey J. Swenson
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> Thanks everyone for setting me straight on coordinate systems!
>
> Andreas' and André's comments about the FireFox 1.5 sensitivity to
> coordinate range limits are a bit disturbing. I spent a good hour or two
> debugging a scripted SVG file that had a related issue. I had build a
> little test map that tracked coordinates into a window that was in
> geographic coordinates (both the map and the tracking window were using the
> same viewBox.) It worked fine in ASV but in FF, I found that text embedded
> in tspan tags vanishes when you use size attributes less than one. I didn't
> pursue it in detail, but it seemed like the problem was related to not
> enough range across the map relative to the font sizes. Once I took the
> tracking window out of geographic space and into a pixel-based integer
> space, everything was fine.
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> I've been told by one ex-SVG developer that "SVG is dying, and that's why I
> don't use it anymore," so I was hoping that since the mozilla team is
> building it into the new Firefox that maybe this would revitalize it.
> However, since I'm just learning about ecma/java scripting, running into
> bugs like these is very frustrating since I don't know if it's my buggy
> script or mozilla's buggy or unfinished SVG code causing the problem!
>
> BTW Andreas, your scripting examples in "Navigation Tools for SVG Maps" at
> http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/navigationTools/ are fantastic! They're
> still way over my head, but I can get them to work even though I don't yet
> understand what's going on. It proves to me that with the addition of some
> sophisticated scripting, SVG really can be a useful tool and not just a
> "map toy."
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