Jeff, You have a point that with rss, I can be more passive. But rss still forces me to go online to the web content, and for raw text reading, it is just not efficient and not possible for me.
I think that I am not alone in using off-net down time to process mailing list correspondence. I do all of my correspondence during the 2-1/2 hours of train journey per day (I do 280km round trip per day on trains) that I take between client sites and home, and imply don't have 2 hours to blow during the evening or main workday to go online and read the twenty interesting lists I contribute to. I find the mailing list to be the most streamlined vehicle, with the least amount of dead time. But that's just me. If others prefer web interfaces, that's fine. I abhor them and their off-topic eyecandy when not needed. I only want the information, and nothing else. Hell, I'd even pay to keep a mailing list service ad free. Ronan On Thursday 20 April 2006 01:13, Jeff Schiller wrote: > Ronan, > > You have time to read emails but not to check a feed for new entries? > I happen to use the feed provided by Yahoo for this list and go to > the web page occasionally when bored, I hardly ever interface through > email. > > The differences between the Yahoo-provided web interface and a > full-fledged forum are actually pretty minimal.. > > Jeff > > --- In [email protected], Ronan Oger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We don't have a 'proper' web forum because this is a mailing list. > > For a web forum, go to svg café. Many People on this mailing list > > like it that > > > way. > > > > Web forums require readers to be online to view/reply to postings. They > > further require that participants visit the pages actively rather than > > passively recieve queries by email. > > > > I am far too busy to do this, and would therefore not participate in > > the > > > discussion in this group. Also, web forums are expensive to operate > > due to > > > their much larger bandwidth than email and therefore have obtrusive > > advertising using increasingly taxing technologies, and I simply do not > > desire to be buried in advertising junk. With my text-only emails > > option on > > > yahoo groups, I can easily parse out the junk and concentrate on the > > content. > > > We could go and have a very long thread about the relative pros and > > cons of > > > web forums and mailing lists, but the fact remains: this is a > > mailing list > > > for which yahoo groups includes a web interface. You are welcome to go > > interact in a web forum, but don't count on me to answer questions > > there as I > > > do not have time. > > > > For a historical perspective, you may look up web forum in the 2002 > > or 2003 > > > archive for the group. The idea was extensively discussed back then. > > > > Ronan > > > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 08:17, Richard Gnyla wrote: > > > I agree, for some reason I had to also resubscribe as well and pretty > > > much this Yahoo Forum pi**ess me off as I now have had to subscribe 3 > > > times in about 2 years or so. > > > > > > What I cant understand is why we dont have a proper forum rather then > > > this ancient yahoo group thing, I reckon it puts people off. I > > remember > > > > a svgcafe.com forum that happened and was better laid out than > > this one > > > > but didnt seem to gain much interest as no one on this forum > > decided to > > > > move over apart from a few of us > > > > > > Maybe its a cost issue to put up and run such a thing - the yahoo > > one is > > > > free i presume. > > > > > > But I agree with Bill - it's more likely putting people off joining > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > Bill Thoen wrote: > > > > Robin Berjon wrote: > > > >> I don't know if there are other fora for discussion, I know I > > tend to > > > > >> go to the #svg IRC channel on irc.freenode.net since a lot of > > > >> interesting discussions and help-giving tends to take place IMHO. > > > > > > > > One other thing... when I tried to re-up my subscription here on > > the SVG > > > > > developers forum, I found Yahoo's nosy (required) questionaire > > really, > > > > > really annoying. Their privacy policy is even worse (basically > > it says > > > > > they can do whatever they like with the info they gather from > > > > subscribers.) Since I have cookies turned off, that was a hassle > > too. I > > > > > tried several times to get re-subscribed, and each time I hadn't > > done > > > > > something right, it forced me to re-enter ALL the info again. So I > > > > filled out a bunch of lies, got signed up, but they managed to > > > > cross-reference my old info using my e-mail address anyway (even > > though > > > > > since I had forgotten my old password *I* couldn't use it!) > > > > > > > > Because of Yahoo, I came within an ace of not bothering to > > re-join this > > > > > forum again. If I hadn't known it was good from my past expeienmce a > > > > couple of years ago, I definitely wouldn't have joined because of > > > > Yahoo's policies. If somebody sets up an alternative SVG discussion > > > > forum using something like GNU mailman and doesn't require a lot of > > > > marketing demograpohics information, I'd be there like a shot > > and would > > > > > never go back to a Yahoo forum again. I'm sure Yahoo's policy > > has turned > > > > > others off from checking this group out; especially these days > > now that > > > > > we all know the questionable uses to which concentrated information > > > > harvesting is put. > > > > > > > > - Bill Thoen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- > > > > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click > > "edit my > > > > > membership" ---- > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- > > Ronan Oger > > Director > > RO IT Systems GmbH > > ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001 > > > > http://www.roitsystems.com > > ----- > To unsubscribe send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > membership" ---- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > -- Ronan Oger Director RO IT Systems GmbH ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001 http://www.roitsystems.com ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
