Alastair, 1) I answered your question
2) You did not answer my question as an interested party 3) You resent my stated concern on another list that as an employee of an engineering services company I feel that you are unqualified to offer to organise a global SVG conference unless your employer backs the conference. As I repeated to you to exhaustion, this is due to the risk that your employer - who owns your schedule - has different priorities than you do. They may therefore have a need to reassign you in a manner that will cause the conference to once again be cancelled. As I have also said to exhaustion, this point is for Andreas Neumann only to consider. I am sorry that you take this as a sign of persecution. I have never worked for your employer, and have never been "presecuted" by them. Back to the relevant point... Please stick to the matter at hand and answer my questions. You are asking for something for free, the least you can do is give an idea to potential volunteers who is asking for this favour. The questions I asked are reasonable and in good faith. If you chose not to answer them, I will chose not to help you get the information. Ronan On Tuesday 19 September 2006 16:34, Alastair Fettes wrote: > Ronan, > > I asked for names of software such that I may evaluate them. That's > it. Evaluation includes fit for use, cost, license restrictions, etc > etc. Please stop jumping to conclusions with every email I send. > Just because you have personal issues with my employer over their > supposed treatment of YOU does not mean you need to attempt to put ME > on the hot seat at every opportunity. > > I will however be a bit more specific: > > Windows XP. WYSIWYG editor. Non-experts. Non-web based - must be > client side application. Access to the internet is not guaranteed. > > Sincerely, > Alastair Fettes > > --- In [email protected], Ronan Oger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Alastair, > > > > There are a number of open-source svg editors like inkscape that you > > can > > > package into your distribution. Those products are truly "free". > > > > For cheap editors, there is Sketsa for $US49/seat - that's almost > > free for > > > enterprises. > > http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Multimedia_and_Graphics/Graphics_Editors >/Sketsa_SVG_Graphics_Editor.html > > > Maybe you can convince Kiyut to give you a bulk license deal. > > http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Authors/Kiyut.html > > > > As for almost everything else, there are some parameters you kind of > > need to > > > specify in order to help us solution providers decide whether we > > want to > > > provide nearly-free products to an enterprise client. > > > > As you know, even svg developers need to put food on the table. > > > > > > It might be helpful of you could expand on the following questions > > that I am > > > sure every interested party would like to ask: > > > > 1) how many seats? By almost free, do you mean 10,000 licenses for > > $5/license > > > or 50 licenses for $1000/license? Or do you really mean unlimited > > licenses > > > for a few bucks and a pat on the back? if the latter, what kind of pat? > > Generally, unlimited-copy wite-label licenses are VERY EXPENSIVE. > > > > 2) what is the target OS? or are you thinking of a web app? if so, what > > serverside parameters? Enterprise Java grade with Oracle, or > > php/mysql? any > > > taboo bits? What version of SVG viewer do you need to support? > > > > 3) what sort of final user are you thinking of, and are you > > *selling* this or > > > giving it away? If you are giving it away, are you white-labeling it or > > giving away a product clearly marked as someone else's? > > > > 4) Are you representing an enterprise or a struggling start-up? > > Is the final user an enterprise, a government, or an institution? > > Will profit be derived by the use of this tool? > > > > 5) How does the provider of this "almost free" software recover > > their cost and > > > put bread on the table? Advertising at the client side? > > click-through url on > > > the product? > > > > 6) Are you asking for *unlimited* distribution rights? Is that > > within the > > > intended product, and only for that particular distribution, or > > forever, for > > > any product sold by your employer? > > > > 7) Who gets to do client-requested upgrades? Are those done at > > commercial > > > rates? > > > > 8) Who pays for bug fixes? > > > > 9) Who is "we"? > > > > 10) When are you looking for this for? > > > > 11) What features are you looking for? "svg editor" is a very big > > field. are > > > you looking for a drawing editor for simple primitives to handle static > > sprites or for a full-featured editor solution that can handle > > namespaces, > > > SMIL, scripting, etc? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ronan > > > > On Monday 18 September 2006 18:58, Alastair Fettes wrote: > > > Does anyone have a list of easy to use wysiwyg SVG editors? We're > > > looking for a free (or *very* cheap to distribute) application that we > > > can package with our software distribution. If not free, then > > > something we can just pay a set fee to package rather than a per-seat > > > license. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Alastair Fettes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- > > > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > > > membership" ---- > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- > > Ronan Oger > > Director > > RO IT Systems GmbH > > ...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001 > > > > http://www.roitsystems.com > > ----- > To unsubscribe send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > membership" ---- > Yahoo! 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