I had already come across this very same issue when reconstructing http://www.peepo.co.uk. as mentioned in each of my replies.
However I ask each of you to consider whether we wish to write code for users or authors? Many users may choose to disable javascript, most especially if they use assistive technology such as perhaps Jaws. Some may not have javascript available. keyboard users may find that group structure awkward to navigate It is true that the poser required a certain group structure that wont resolve with CSS. I found it difficult to understand why the posers suggested group structure should be necessary. perhaps someone can explain? In .Net magazine someone recently asked how one can place a link within a link. this is possible with javascript, but is it sensible, accessible or necessary? The fact that there is a solution, does not mean that the correct response is to supply it. One has the opportunity to query the questioner as to the rational of their intention. regards Jonathan Chetwynd On 12 May 2007, at 21:21, Domenico Strazzullo wrote: Jeff, Thanks, and sorry for the crossover. Nico --- In [email protected], "Jeff Schiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jonathan, > > Why do you say the code supplied by Rainer is incomplete? The code > supplied here > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/58615 _IS_ > complete as I opened it up in a browser myself when I worked out my > solution. > > Domenic has already stated that he didn't believe CSS could solve the > problem and now you want him to supply code to "further substantiate > his claims"?!? How should he solve something in a way he doesn't > think is solvable? > > Jonathan - if you think CSS can solve the problem, then please provide > the code that does so, the burden of proof is on you. Domenic has > specifically asked you how you would solve the problem here > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/58621 which > you've ignored. I think both he and I are genuinely curious about how > you would do this. > > Thanks, > Jeff > > --- In [email protected], "~:'' > ã‚ã‚ŠãŒã¨ã†ã"ã–ã„ã¾ã— ãŸã€‚" <j.chetwynd@> wrote: > > > > Domenico, > > > > Jonathan Watts work is known to me, as is he, himself. > > to paraphrase: > > "the style attribute should be avoided unless you need to override > > properties set by a CSS selector," > > which appears to be exactly what Rainer intends. > > Unless I've misunderstood... > > similarly the "layer" issue is a red herring. > > > > Please supply a further code sample to substantiate your concerns, as > > the one Rainer supplied is incomplete. > > > > cheers > > > > Jonathan Chetwynd > > > > > > > > On 12 May 2007, at 00:46, Domenico Strazzullo wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "~:'' > > ã‚りãÂÅ'ã¨ãÂâ € ãÂ"ãÂâ€"ã„ã¾ãÂâ€" > > ãŸ。" <j.chetwynd@> wrote: > > > > > > Rainer & Domenico, > > > > > > Please spend a little more effort to investigate CSS, see file > > attached > > > > > > > Jonathan, > > > > Rainer said: > > > > > I hope there might be a solution without changing > > > the groupings of the elements. > > > > The css solution IS NOT possible under those circumstances, i.e. as > > long as the element to highlight is in another layer. It would be > > possible by swapping classes through scripting but it would be a > > tedious solution anyway. Besides, Rainer wishes to follow Mr Watts' > > recommendations in regard to css and he's very much right in doing so. > > > > Domenico > > > > PS: The file at http://www.peepo.co.uk, which I've known for ages, > > contains illegal characters in declared utf-8; by using iso-8859-1 it > > won't be necessary to code them. Your systemLanguage solution is cool. > > > > > http://www.peepo.co.uk might help you a little more.... > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Jonathan Chetwynd > > > > > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?> > > > <!DOCTYPE svg [ > > > <!ENTITY guis "http://www.peepo.co.uk/temp/gui-schema#";> > > > ]> > > > <svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"; > > > xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"; > > > width="100%" height="100%" > > > > > > > <defs> > > > > > > <style type="text/css" id="css"><![CDATA[ > > > text {font-family: comic-sans; fill: #666; font-size: 5.0em; > > > visibility: hidden} > > > > > > .border {visibility: hidden; fill: #fff} > > > a:focus .border {visibility: visible} > > > a:focus .icon {fill: #0f0} > > > > > > a:hover .border { visibility: visible} > > > a:hover .icon {fill: #0f0} > > > > > > ]]></style> > > > > > > <symbol id="splat" viewBox=""> > > > <path d="M 30 20 Q S S S > > > S S S S 0 5 30 > > > 20" /> > > > </symbol> > > > </defs> > > > <g> > > > <rect x="0" y="0" width="100%" height="100%" fill="#cca" > > > stroke="none" id="menuBG" /> > > > <g ><title>splat</title> > > > <a xlink:href="http://www.peepo.co.uk/launch/splat.svg";> > > > <use xlink:href="#splat" x="-1.5%" y="23.5%" width="23%" height="33%" > > > class="border" fill="#fff"/> > > > <use xlink:href="#splat" x="0%" y="25%" width="20%" height="30%" > > > fill="red" class="icon" /> > > > </a> > > > </g> > > > </g> > > > </svg> > > > > > > ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! 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