--- In [email protected], Guy Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think you've put plenty of words in.
> 
> Saying something can work on 90% of browsers right now when what 
you  
> really mean is "if they install the plugin" is disingenuous at 
best  
> and downright dishonest at worst. At least SVG has real native  
> support in the most popular IE alternatives out there, and I see 
FF's  
> popularity growing as IE's is shrinking, so do the math.
> 
> Let this thread die, please. Go and join a Silverlight list if you  
> love it so much and bore them with your endless illogical rantings.
> 
> Guy
> 
> PS doing something to support SVG's future may include not 
allowing  
> pro-Silverlight posts in an SVG group. You seem very reluctant to  
> support SVG in this way, so shouldn't be surprised that people  
> suspect you of being a shill.

Perhaps a way to support svg would be to ask what is W3C's 
responsability in decreasing interest for svg?
Another would be to redefine svg's purpose and place in global 
context to close svg to "scalable vector graphics" only.
It's not responsability of SilverLight in this.
I have to say that SilverLight plugin has efficient level that svg 
has not, even as native in Opera or FF.

Michel

> On 05/06/2007, at 5:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > It is hardly fair that someone can respond to Silverlight post 
with a
> > hostile but not altogether factual response, so I am going to 
try  
> > one more
> > time to get a word in.
> >
> > Quote:
> > "That is the
> > eternal promise that we are going to be smashed by the
> > next
> > compelling experience brought to us by so and so. The reality is
> > different, those packages really act as constrictors of the
> > imagination, being based on the principle of tool and object
> > libraries."
> >
> > Silverlight is hardly any different
> > than SVG. It uses XML data to define graphic objects, which can be
> > scripted and created using Javascript on a web page. So this 
critique
> > of Silverlight is hardly applicable whatsoever.
> >
> > The syntax
> > is somewhat different, of course, and SVG still has a few things 
that
> > Silverlight lacks. But Silverlight is actually making rapid 
progress
> > and already works very reliably on far more computers / browsers
> > without a lot of gotchas than SVG does. At least 90% of the 
installed
> > base can run the Silverlight plugin right now vs. about 30% (at 
best)
> > with SVG and even then you would have to have detection code to  
> > handle the
> > various bugs in the flavor of SVG available on the user's 
browser  
> > and a
> > huge amount of very flakey behaviour.
> >
> > There is about a six
> > month window where SVG is going to have to do some serious 
catchup and
> > come up with a version that works as widely (and as identically 
on  
> > various
> > browsers) as Silverlight already does, or SVG won't EVER
> > get widespread adoption. Ignoring this fact is not going to make 
the
> > problem go away.
> >
> > Trying to say that this is not an acceptable
> > topic here won't save SVG. Doing something about it will. I don't
> > want M$ to win on this one, but they will succeed at
> > imposing the new graphic standard if the SVG progress
> > continues at the same glacial rate of the past few years. There 
are  
> > too
> > many people with projects that need to be done now, rather than  
> > waiting
> > for a more politically correct technology.
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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