I believe I misled you, Rémi. I don't think there is such a thing as I described, and like you I am complaining that there is not. Sorry. Chaals' solution using <symbol> and then rotating the href:xlink declaratively may be as close as one can come to what you are looking for, though I did also find myself complaining, when I saw it, that I could find no way to do something like <symbol> <text id="generic" x="0" y="240" font-family="Verdana" font-size="55" fill="red"> generic</text> </symbol> <use href:xlink="#generic" childValue="4"></use> <use href:xlink="#generic" childValue="3"></use> <use href:xlink="#generic" childValue="2"></use> <use href:xlink="#generic" childValue="1"></use> cannot be used just to conserve keystrokes. Again there is no childValue in the spec (nor is there a DOMValue="firstChild.nodeValue" ), but I don't know of anything that would accomplish the equivalent. The whole topic of how far declarative animation, in the context of a script-free markup language like SVG or HTML seems rather appealing as a conceptual endeavor. I think that with just a few things added in here or there, it might be made Turing complete, hence providing a conceptual alternative to the conventional imperative model. Whether humans can actually do declarative programming, or whether we might have to hire primates to do the job for us (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/12/03/chimp.memory.ap/index.html?eref=time_tech), seems somewhat unresolved, but the appeal seems to become apparent once one has played with it a while. By the way, as Chaals pointed out to me, id=5 might work in browsers, but it is probably not okay to have a number as the value of an id. It felt funny as I was doing it, and it probably is. Hope this makes sense, David
________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of rémi Sent: Mon 12/10/2007 6:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [svg-developers] Re: SVG countdown Hi, Le Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:21:39 -0500, ddailey a écrit: > In terms of being able to do something like that declaratively, it seems > like the question has come up before, but I honestly can't remember if > someone suggested a solution that would actually work anywhere -- I > rather doubt it -- something like > > <text id="5" x="0" y="240" font-family="Verdana" font-size="55" > fill="red">5 > <animate DOMValue="firstChild.nodeValue" values="5;4;3;2;1" dur="5s" > /></text> Sounds really nice but I couldn't find something related to in the specs and google sends me back to... this message ! According to what I quickly read animate and set are only to animate or set a single attribute or property over a time. Thanks. Rémi. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
