Domenico,

without wishing to appear to have any knowledge about font design I  
would like to make one significant point.

Designers including font designers would provide a better service to  
the community if they learnt about their needs and attempted to aid  
them. It isn't that helpful to just run down other peoples efforts,  
rather attempt to learn what was intended and provided a 'better'  
version.

Joe has made some pretty unsympathetic comments about the difficulty  
of meeting the needs of people with learning disabilities. Afaik he  
has done nothing to research or build on our knowledge. He's also  
made some unpleasant remarks about the efforts of others.

none of this in any way is a comment on Joe's knowledge about screen  
fonts, it's rather Our failure to use this knowledge to develop an  
appropriate font.

regards


Jonathan Chetwynd
Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet



On 6 Dec 2007, at 17:56, Domenico Strazzullo wrote:

And I encourage strongly anyone involved with digital production of
any kind to read Joe Clark's article. To those who haven't yet
discovered or understood, by the year 2007 of this modern age, that
aesthetics is a cardinal function of logic, it can give something
that is still cruelly missing or underestimated amongst the digital
indigens, a good insight.

In the paragraph "Beauty vs. legibility" Joe Clark has some very
inspired lines.

Domenico

--- In [email protected], "Domenico Strazzullo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > Thanks, Jonathan,
 >
 > No, I haven't met Joe Clark, but I like him. What he writes
confirms
 > the very first impressions I had: one, they used very low quality
jpg
 > to show the font in the web page (wow!); two, I was immediately
 > shocked by the cap B for some reason, and by the weight/letting
 > ratio. All in all those people didn't know what they were doing,
 > under a "scientific" cover. Joe Clark is absolutely right in his
 > heavy criticism.
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > Domenico
 >
 >
 > --- In [email protected], "~:'' あã 
‚ŠãŒã¨ã†ã"ざ
 > いました。" <j.chetwynd@> wrote:
 > >
 > > Domenico,
 > >
 > > you'll easily find out the RNIB chief officer commissioned or
 > > developed the Tiresias as a screen font for people with poor
 > vision.
 > > however Joe Clark, whom you may have met has this to say:
 > > http://screenfont.ca/fonts/today/Tiresias/debunk/
 > >
 > > cheers
 > >
 > > Jonathan Chetwynd
 > > Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > On 5 Dec 2007, at 20:56, Domenico Strazzullo wrote:
 > >
 > > --- In [email protected], "~:'' あã
 > > ‚ŠãÅ'とうã"à 
£Ââ€"
 > > いまãâ€"たãâ 
‚¬â€š" <j.chetwynd@> wrote:
 > > >
 > > > Domenico,
 > > >
 > > > It seems that the Tiresias font has recently been released GNU
 > > > General Public License
 > > > wonder if this was of interest for SVG.
 > > >
 > > > they were developed to be legible I believe
 > >
 > > which is what you would expect from a font:) I'll take a look.
 > >
 > > Domenico
 > >
 > > >
 > > > regards
 > > >
 > > > Jonathan Chetwynd
 > > > Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet
 > > >
 > > > http://www.tiresias.org/fonts/fonts_download.htm
 > > >
 > >
 >






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