Hi John,

Are you aware of the testsuites that W3C provides? You can find them 
at http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/Overview.html for SVG 1.2 Tiny 
and SVG 1.1 Full. While they do not test every single aspect of the 
testsuite (this would require thousands of tests), they do test many 
important parts of the testsuite. If all browsers would score 100%, 
interoperability would be quite good. Jeff Schiller also provides an 
overview on how much the web browsers and SVG UAs implement: http://
www.codedread.com/svg-support.php

If UAs have a lot of reds, it is usually because they don't implement 
some parts of the spec at all, e.g. SMIL or SVG filters.

I believe that the W3C SVG testsuite is the best testsuite to improve 
on, if you want to contribute. The W3C SVG working group invites 
individuals or companies to contribute to the test suite. The SVG IG 
(interest group http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/Main_Page) is 
a good place/group for getting something like this started.

The questions is more how to increase pressure on browser 
manufactorers to test against the testsuite and make it a regular 
part of their QA. You are probably also aware about the ACID3 test, 
which all browser manufactorers are testing against. Thanks to Erik, 
Cameron and Doug we have 3 SVG tests in there as well. I think it is 
a good idea to increase the SVG share in upcoming ACID tests along 
with the further development of the SVG testsuite.

I agree that interoperability should improve and browser 
manufactorers need to take SVG more seriously (with higher priority) 
in the future.

Andreas


--- In [email protected], "John C. Turnbull" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Being somewhat new to SVG technology, I have been doing some 
research into
> the range of SVG compatibility in various browsers and other 
products before
> committing to a major project development that is based on SVG.  
Quite
> clearly, each browser does some things well and others very poorly 
with no
> single browser supporting all aspects of SVG, although Opera scores 
very
> highly.  This led me to think about what could be done to get all 
browsers
> "on the same page" with respect to SVG.
> 
>  
> 
> In this regard I believe that what is needed is an industry 
standard SVG
> test suite that all browser manufacturers could easily utilise to 
improve
> SVG support in their products.  Not something trivial, but real-
world
> examples that highlight every aspect of the SVG specification.  To 
accompany
> these tests would be a standard document that detailed the current 
status of
> SVG support in each version of each browser or product highlighting 
which
> tests are passed and which are not.  I don't know who would "own" 
this test
> suite and compliance status document but it would need to be well 
managed,
> easily accessible and automated.
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps W3C already provide some certification tests?  I don't 
know, but
> clearly more work needs to be done in this area to bring all 
browsers into
> line.
> 
>  
> 
> I know Batik has a test suite and I am sure other browser 
manufacturers each
> have their own so finding suitable material shouldn't be a 
problem.  The key
> is to have everyone using the *same* test suite.
> 
>  
> 
> I believe that SVG developers need to do more to encourage, assist 
or
> pressure browser manufacturers to improve their level of SVG 
support and
> this could be the first step.
> 
>  
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
>  
> 
> John C. Turnbull
> 
> Bembrick Software Labs
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



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