> On Apr 19, 2017, at 15:22, Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com> wrote:

...

>> Actually this is exactly what I would expect from Linux!
>> 
>> Why do we need to pull the trigger on GDB other than to pull the trigger
>> to say we are GPL free, if that is the reason then this is the wrong
>> way to go about it.
> 
> I think "gdb in base is horribly broken" is the real reason. You need
> the port to do anything non-trivial these days.
> 
> Plus core set this as a goal for the project after it was clear that
> was a consensus desire several years ago. Can't fault someone for
> working towards that goal.

+1 to Warner's sentiments.

gdb in base doesn't work well with threads (6.x never did ;/..), and lacks 
support for other things (like python debugging). Being able to debug threads 
reliably is a make or break thing.

So while I understand and in general agree with you Rod, I completely disagree 
on the practical end of things. I'm actually kind of curious as to why this 
isn't being done globally.. but I assume that it was described in one of the 
many threads some time ago about the status quo for debugging with gdb on 
tier-two architectures.

Thanks,
-Ngie
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