> On Nov 23, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Rodney W. Grimes 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Rodney W. Grimes
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Also we do provide an ntp.conf so ...
>>> 
>>> We do, a template, all commented out, and does not work for
>>> machines behind strong firewalls that wont allow ntp out
>>> to the net but have internal ntp servers that are used for
>>> such things.
>>> 
>>> Well maybe not all commented out, I think it defaults to
>>> some public pools.  I believe it would be missing iburst
>>> for use with ntp -pg
>> 
>> Does ntpdate work out of the box in such environments?  If so, how?
> 
> ntpdate time.nist.gov
> 
> ntpdate does not need a configureration file, just a command
> line argument.
> 
> 

At the banks we used to rely on both (in this order) ntpdate running and then 
ntpd running.

Running ntpdate before ntpd meant that on a [re]boot, ntpdate would jump the 
box to the appropriate time, regardless of how far behind the clock was (think 
"dead cmos battery" on a system left powered-off for a long time).

Meanwhile, running ntpd *without* the sync-on-start feature meant we could 
bounce the ntpd service as necessary and it would always adhere to the limit we 
set on it -- one hour to prevent syncing on systems which had been manually 
adjusted by greater than an hour for some one-off instances.
-- 
Devin

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