As Ryan suggests r232260 should be recommitted to get acc(4) fixed.

However, given the age of the devices involved and the lack of support by the 
standard, I’d say the threshold isn’t met to reinstate the boundary globally 
preemptively.

To get the insurance, which may not even be necessary, you start to contort 
working drivers.  For example the insurance can cause legitimate mappings to 
fail to load.  Since bus_dma(9) has no interface to return the “active” 
boundary and only returns the EFBIG when boundary constraint causes a mapping 
to fail to load this causes a rather cryptic failure when a driver.  E.g. with 
the insurance a a tiny 8 byte region will fail to load into a single segment on 
ioat(4) if it happens to cross an invisible 4GB boundary instituted by the 
parent.  You need create a tag which allows multiple segments.  How many 
segments?  Well it depends on how many artificial boundaries; it starts to get 
ugly.  Seems better to support the handful of those devices which need 
hand-holding at the tag level for those devices.

Tycho

> On Apr 25, 2019, at 7:31 PM, Scott Long <sco...@samsco.org> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, it might be turning into an old wives tale at this point.  I clearly 
> remember
> it being discussed at the PCI-SIG in late 2003 when PCIe 1.0 was in its final
> draft stages.  However, that was a long time ago, and it’s possible that even
> if it’s a limitation in some version or another of the spec, that most 
> hardware
> and firmware just silently account for it.  At the time (and even now) it 
> didn’t
> seem like an onerous limitation to place on drivers, especially with it being
> quite easy to implement in FreeBSD.  So I’m on the fence; it might be a bit of
> trivia that’s not relevant, and maybe wasn’t ever relevant, but it’s also 
> cheap
> insurance.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Ryan Stone <ryst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> +scottl@, who I believe explained this to us in the first place.
>> 
>> As I recall, it had something to do with 64-bit DMA being expressed as
>> segment base + 32-bit offset.  DMA engines that blindly try to cross a
>> 32-bit boundary end up back at the start of the segment and read/write
>> the wrong memory location.
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:37 PM John Baldwin <j...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had looked for the aac change, but wasn't able to find it, perhaps 
>>> because I
>>> looked at tags created in aac.c rather than aac_pci.c.  I agree aac will 
>>> need to
>>> be re-patched.  I'm not really certain how many other devices are actually 
>>> broken.
>>> They would all be due to a firmware bug, nothing inherent in PCI.
>>> 
>>> I believe twa(4) and bge(4) issues predated aac(4) FWIW.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, the main bit of discussion about moving the limit into the 
>>> PCI bus
>>> itself seems to be an IRC discussion on 2/28/12 that resulted in revision 
>>> r232267
>>> as a quick MFC'able fix, but I don't have a log of that conversation. :(  I
>>> couldn't find anything in e-mail either that was definitive for why this 
>>> might have
>>> been inherent in PCI-e vs a few firmware writers having similar bugs.
>>> 
>>> On 4/25/19 12:20 PM, Ryan Stone wrote:
>>>> Following up, this is what will have to be re-instated in the aac driver:
>>>> 
>>>> http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/232260
>>>> 
>>>> However, my biggest concern is that we have no idea how many new
>>>> devices with the broken behaviour might have been introduced since we
>>>> fixed the problem in general.  How does Linux handle the issue?
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 3:17 PM Ryan Stone <ryst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This change makes me *very* uncomfortable.  It was originally brought
>>>>> in due to issues with Adaptec RAID cards using the aac(9) driver.  The
>>>>> symptoms of the bug included silent corruption of data as it was
>>>>> written to disk.  Are we sure that this change is a good idea, given
>>>>> how catastrophic it is when a device gets this wrong?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 9:43 AM Tycho Nightingale <tyc...@freebsd.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Author: tychon
>>>>>> Date: Fri Apr 19 13:43:33 2019
>>>>>> New Revision: 346386
>>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/346386
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>> remove the 4GB boundary requirement on PCI DMA segments
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Reviewed by:  kib
>>>>>> Discussed with:       jhb
>>>>>> Sponsored by: Dell EMC Isilon
>>>>>> Differential Revision:        https://reviews.freebsd.org/D19867
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>> head/sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h
>>>>>> head/sys/dev/pci/pci.c
>>>>>> head/sys/dev/pci/pcivar.h
>>>>>> head/sys/dev/twa/tw_osl.h
>>>>>> head/sys/dev/twa/tw_osl_freebsd.c
>>>>>> head/sys/x86/iommu/intel_ctx.c
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified: head/sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> --- head/sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h        Fri Apr 19 13:23:41 2019        
>>>>>> (r346385)
>>>>>> +++ head/sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h        Fri Apr 19 13:43:33 2019        
>>>>>> (r346386)
>>>>>> @@ -3067,3 +3067,11 @@ struct bge_softc {
>>>>>> #define        BGE_LOCK_ASSERT(_sc)    mtx_assert(&(_sc)->bge_mtx, 
>>>>>> MA_OWNED)
>>>>>> #define        BGE_UNLOCK(_sc)         mtx_unlock(&(_sc)->bge_mtx)
>>>>>> #define        BGE_LOCK_DESTROY(_sc)   mtx_destroy(&(_sc)->bge_mtx)
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +#ifdef BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR
>>>>>> +#if (BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR > 0xFFFFFFFF)
>>>>>> +#define        BGE_DMA_BOUNDARY        (0x100000000)
>>>>>> +#else
>>>>>> +#define        BGE_DMA_BOUNDARY        0
>>>>>> +#endif
>>>>>> +#endif
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified: head/sys/dev/pci/pci.c
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> --- head/sys/dev/pci/pci.c      Fri Apr 19 13:23:41 2019        (r346385)
>>>>>> +++ head/sys/dev/pci/pci.c      Fri Apr 19 13:43:33 2019        (r346386)
>>>>>> @@ -4343,9 +4343,6 @@ pci_attach_common(device_t dev)
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>       struct pci_softc *sc;
>>>>>>       int busno, domain;
>>>>>> -#ifdef PCI_DMA_BOUNDARY
>>>>>> -       int error, tag_valid;
>>>>>> -#endif
>>>>>> #ifdef PCI_RES_BUS
>>>>>>       int rid;
>>>>>> #endif
>>>>>> @@ -4365,23 +4362,7 @@ pci_attach_common(device_t dev)
>>>>>>       if (bootverbose)
>>>>>>               device_printf(dev, "domain=%d, physical bus=%d\n",
>>>>>>                   domain, busno);
>>>>>> -#ifdef PCI_DMA_BOUNDARY
>>>>>> -       tag_valid = 0;
>>>>>> -       if 
>>>>>> (device_get_devclass(device_get_parent(device_get_parent(dev))) !=
>>>>>> -           devclass_find("pci")) {
>>>>>> -               error = bus_dma_tag_create(bus_get_dma_tag(dev), 1,
>>>>>> -                   PCI_DMA_BOUNDARY, BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR, 
>>>>>> BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR,
>>>>>> -                   NULL, NULL, BUS_SPACE_MAXSIZE, 
>>>>>> BUS_SPACE_UNRESTRICTED,
>>>>>> -                   BUS_SPACE_MAXSIZE, 0, NULL, NULL, &sc->sc_dma_tag);
>>>>>> -               if (error)
>>>>>> -                       device_printf(dev, "Failed to create DMA tag: 
>>>>>> %d\n",
>>>>>> -                           error);
>>>>>> -               else
>>>>>> -                       tag_valid = 1;
>>>>>> -       }
>>>>>> -       if (!tag_valid)
>>>>>> -#endif
>>>>>> -               sc->sc_dma_tag = bus_get_dma_tag(dev);
>>>>>> +       sc->sc_dma_tag = bus_get_dma_tag(dev);
>>>>>>       return (0);
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified: head/sys/dev/pci/pcivar.h
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> --- head/sys/dev/pci/pcivar.h   Fri Apr 19 13:23:41 2019        (r346385)
>>>>>> +++ head/sys/dev/pci/pcivar.h   Fri Apr 19 13:43:33 2019        (r346386)
>>>>>> @@ -693,14 +693,6 @@ int        pcie_link_reset(device_t port, int 
>>>>>> pcie_location);
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> void   pci_print_faulted_dev(void);
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -#ifdef BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR
>>>>>> -#if (BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR > 0xFFFFFFFF)
>>>>>> -#define        PCI_DMA_BOUNDARY        0x100000000
>>>>>> -#else
>>>>>> -#define        PCI_DMA_BOUNDARY        0
>>>>>> -#endif
>>>>>> -#endif
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> #endif /* _SYS_BUS_H_ */
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified: head/sys/dev/twa/tw_osl.h
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> --- head/sys/dev/twa/tw_osl.h   Fri Apr 19 13:23:41 2019        (r346385)
>>>>>> +++ head/sys/dev/twa/tw_osl.h   Fri Apr 19 13:43:33 2019        (r346386)
>>>>>> @@ -57,6 +57,12 @@
>>>>>> #define TW_OSLI_MAX_NUM_IOS            (TW_OSLI_MAX_NUM_REQUESTS - 2)
>>>>>> #define TW_OSLI_MAX_NUM_AENS           0x100
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +#ifdef PAE
>>>>>> +#define        TW_OSLI_DMA_BOUNDARY            (1u << 31)
>>>>>> +#else
>>>>>> +#define        TW_OSLI_DMA_BOUNDARY            
>>>>>> ((bus_size_t)((uint64_t)1 << 32))
>>>>>> +#endif
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> /* Possible values of req->state. */
>>>>>> #define TW_OSLI_REQ_STATE_INIT         0x0     /* being initialized */
>>>>>> #define TW_OSLI_REQ_STATE_BUSY         0x1     /* submitted to CL */
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified: head/sys/dev/twa/tw_osl_freebsd.c
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> --- head/sys/dev/twa/tw_osl_freebsd.c   Fri Apr 19 13:23:41 2019        
>>>>>> (r346385)
>>>>>> +++ head/sys/dev/twa/tw_osl_freebsd.c   Fri Apr 19 13:43:33 2019        
>>>>>> (r346386)
>>>>>> @@ -551,7 +551,7 @@ tw_osli_alloc_mem(struct twa_softc *sc)
>>>>>>       /* Create the parent dma tag. */
>>>>>>       if (bus_dma_tag_create(bus_get_dma_tag(sc->bus_dev), /* parent */
>>>>>>                               sc->alignment,          /* alignment */
>>>>>> -                               0,                      /* boundary */
>>>>>> +                               TW_OSLI_DMA_BOUNDARY,   /* boundary */
>>>>>>                               BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR,      /* lowaddr */
>>>>>>                               BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR,      /* highaddr */
>>>>>>                               NULL, NULL,             /* filter, 
>>>>>> filterarg */
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified: head/sys/x86/iommu/intel_ctx.c
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> --- head/sys/x86/iommu/intel_ctx.c      Fri Apr 19 13:23:41 2019        
>>>>>> (r346385)
>>>>>> +++ head/sys/x86/iommu/intel_ctx.c      Fri Apr 19 13:43:33 2019        
>>>>>> (r346386)
>>>>>> @@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ ctx_tag_init(struct dmar_ctx *ctx, device_t dev)
>>>>>>       maxaddr = MIN(ctx->domain->end, BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR);
>>>>>>       ctx->ctx_tag.common.ref_count = 1; /* Prevent free */
>>>>>>       ctx->ctx_tag.common.impl = &bus_dma_dmar_impl;
>>>>>> -       ctx->ctx_tag.common.boundary = PCI_DMA_BOUNDARY;
>>>>>> +       ctx->ctx_tag.common.boundary = 0;
>>>>>>       ctx->ctx_tag.common.lowaddr = maxaddr;
>>>>>>       ctx->ctx_tag.common.highaddr = maxaddr;
>>>>>>       ctx->ctx_tag.common.maxsize = maxaddr;
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> John Baldwin
> 
> 

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