On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 05:11:14PM +0300, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote:
A> On 11/19/14 16:57, Mark Felder wrote:
A> > New Revision: 274710
A> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/274710
A> >
A> > Log:
A> >    Expose groups by default in ifconfig output. This was never hidden by
A> >    OpenBSD; unsure why we chose to do so. As groups are a requirement for
A> >    pf, exposing them by default will make our pf implementation less
A> >    confusing.
A> ...
A> >
A> > Modified: head/sbin/ifconfig/ifgroup.c
A> > 
==============================================================================
A> > --- head/sbin/ifconfig/ifgroup.c   Wed Nov 19 13:31:08 2014        
(r274709)
A> > +++ head/sbin/ifconfig/ifgroup.c   Wed Nov 19 13:57:39 2014        
(r274710)
A> > @@ -86,9 +86,6 @@ getifgroups(int s)
A> >    struct ifgroupreq        ifgr;
A> >    struct ifg_req          *ifg;
A> >
A> > -  if (!verbose)
A> > -          return;
A> 
A> Please return groups output under verbose flag.
A> 
A> pf is used not by all.
A> 
A> And more longer ifconfig output is unhandy. Especially on hosts with many 
A> interfaces.
A> 
A> Better to document ifconfig -v in pf.conf(5)

Better to document it in ifconfig(8). Actually ifgroups are not a part
of pf(5). And commit has nothing to do with "our pf implementation being
confusing".

P.S. I was pretty sure that users would not like changing defaults for ifconfig.

-- 
Totus tuus, Glebius.
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