I already committed... There's no need for a special upgrade process... Warner
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:59 PM Alan Somers <asom...@freebsd.org> wrote: > Go ahead and commit. Consider it reviewed by me. And if I understand > correctly, this commit means there's no need for a special updating > procedure, right? > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 6:55 PM Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 5:17 PM Kyle Evans <kev...@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 17:02 Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 3:55 PM Kyle Evans <kev...@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 4:53 PM Ian Lepore <i...@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, 2020-09-22 at 15:50 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >>>>> > > I think it's a great leap sideways, but I've done cp /dev/null foo >>>>> to >>>>> > > clear >>>>> > > it out for 35 years now... It's why it feels like a workaround. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Though it is a legit optimization, no matter the feelings. As for >>>>> > > clearer, >>>>> > > I'm less sure since then I have to remember what the : operator >>>>> does. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Warner >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > For me, :> is idiomatic (but ugly). >>>>> > >>>>> > On the other hand, the cp /dev/null had a nice dogfooding aspect to >>>>> > it... when we broke cp by accident, its use in the build system was >>>>> the >>>>> > first alarm to go off. >>>>> > >>>>> > --Ian >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> To be honest, this is a case that really should be covered by >>>>> regression tests somewhere. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It should (but isn't yet). >>>> >>>> Ian is right for old-school FreeBSD thinking. In that thinking the >>>> build system should use an eclectic mix of tools to act as a fire-wall >>>> against accidental breakage. >>>> >>>> Complete, effective, test suites give much better coverage... if they >>>> are run... >>>> >>>> So until we run tests frequently, with loud regression squawking that's >>>> as effective as build breakage, I tend to fall in the 'all of the above' >>>> camp until that's in place... :) >>>> >>>> Warner >>>> >>>> P.S. though not, if I suppose, if it means that we're slowing down the >>>> regression coverage uptake... >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> The test build was fine, please confirm if I can commit it or if someone >>> else would like to write the UPDATING notice or start bootstrapping cp on >>> systems that were affected. I'm not comfortable with not taking any path at >>> all here, but this is a lot of friction for a small mechanical change to >>> ease the pain. >>> >> >> Sorry if I wasn't clear: I'm not objecting to the quick mechanical change >> so much as complaining that I wish we had better test coverage. Don't let >> that stop you from doing what's right (or I can if you'd like). >> >> Warner >> > _______________________________________________ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
