On 29 October 2017 at 12:47, Devin Teske <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>>
>>>> I doubt many people use /bin/sh as an interactive shell, but the tip
>>>> ought not lead those who do astray

Will fix.

>>>
>>> Yes. /bin/sh on FreeBSD doesn't grok it, though bash and some other shells
>>> available as ports do. I think that the old text was a bit better.

< snip lots of great advice>

Lets add new tips to fortune!

> I’ve still had to use rehash on several occasions for it to detect new apps, 
> so remove that reference might be a mistake

After r234823 I expect this to only occur if you install a new binary,
with the same as an existing hashed binary, earlier in the PATH. Have
you found this not to be the case?

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Eitan Adler
Source, Ports, Doc committer
Bugmeister, Ports Security teams

On 29 October 2017 at 12:47, Devin Teske <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Oct 29, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Cy Schubert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> In message <[email protected]
>> om>
>> , Warner Losh writes:
>>> --94eb2c114c9a7c3c21055cb3566c
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Ed Maste <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 October 2017 at 00:53, Eitan Adler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Author: eadler
>>>>> Date: Sun Oct 29 04:53:33 2017
>>>>> New Revision: 325092
>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/325092
>>>>>
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> Modernize freebsd-tips a bit
>>>> ...
>>>>> %
>>>>> Want to run the same command again?
>>>>> -In tcsh you can type "!!".
>>>>> +Type "!!".
>>>>> %
>>>>
>>>> $ !!
>>>> sh: !!: not found
>>>>
>>>> I doubt many people use /bin/sh as an interactive shell, but the tip
>>>> ought not lead those who do astray
>>>
>>> Yes. /bin/sh on FreeBSD doesn't grok it, though bash and some other shells
>>> available as ports do. I think that the old text was a bit better.
>>
>> Or better yet, ctrl-r in bash and zsh, or up-arrow in tcsh.
>
> Since we are responding to emaste's astute observation with random personal 
> favorites when it comes to history actions in an interactive shell...
>
> How about Esc-P and Esc-N?
>
> Never used it, you say? Few people do.
>
> Try this:
>
> Esc-P
> (a colon appears)
> (type a portion of the event you are looking for and press ENTER)
> Found it? Good.
> Didn't find it? Esc-P then ENTER to repeat search further back.
> Keep typing Esc-P, ENTER until you find it.
> Oh, you went too far? Esc-N, ENTER to search forward from the last matched 
> event.
>
> Sometimes I show this to co-workers and they shake their head and go back to 
> Ctrl-R.
>
> Ctrl-R is ok, but doesn't enable an Esc-N-like functionality by default. But 
> if you execute (or put in your shell profile) "stty -ixon" then you can use 
> Ctrl-S to reverse the search order during a Ctrl-R search.
>
> For example:
>
> Ctrl-r
> (a prompt appears)
> (type some text; don't hit ENTER)
> Ctrl-r until you find the one you want
> Went too far?
> Ctrl-s to switch from reverse-search to forward-search
> Ctrl-s until you find one you want
>
> Just thought I would share this random info.
>
> As for the fortune statement...
>
> I agree with emaste, "Type !!" is misleading. Old statement of "in tcsh you 
> can type !!" was fine because tcsh is the only shell in base that supports 
> that feature. However, possible alternatives to "Type !!" could be:
>
> Try "!!" (works in many shells but not all).
>
> NB: Trying to make a future-proof statement so the fortune datfile doesn't 
> have to be onerously maintained.
> --
> Devin



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Eitan Adler
Source, Ports, Doc committer
Bugmeister, Ports Security teams
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