Thanks. It doesn't matter anyway FreeBSD sed -i '' == gsed -i <with no argument>.
-- Cheers, Cy Schubert <cy.schub...@cschubert.com> FreeBSD UNIX: <c...@freebsd.org> Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. In message <4fe900e7-10e6-4909-bb4a-c5e6f83ff...@freebsd.org>, Pedro Giffuni wr ites: > > > --Apple-Mail=_50E4FA92-D46B-44D0-AA71-CE18C2B93B8C > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=utf-8 > > Hello; > > > On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:17, Cy Schubert <cy.schub...@komquats.com> = > wrote: > >=20 > > What side effects? Can you give one or two examples, please? > >=20 > > Sorry, I forgot the details .. but I am pretty sure there was exp-run = > and breakage in the ports tree. > > Pedro. > > > --- > > Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. > > Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. > > This old phone only supports top post. Apologies. > >=20 > > Cy Schubert > > <cy.schub...@cschubert.com> or <c...@freebsd.org> > > The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. > > --- > > From: Pedro Giffuni > > Sent: 05/12/2017 08:40 > > To: Cy Schubert; Devin Teske; Hans Petter Selasky > > Cc: rgri...@freebsd.org; c...@freebsd.org; Eitan Adler; src-committers; = > svn-src-...@freebsd.org; svn-src-head@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: svn commit: r326554 - in head: . = > usr.bin/spongeusr.bin/sponge/tests usr.bin/tee > >=20 > >=20 > > On 05/12/2017 11:29, Cy Schubert wrote: > >> Why not update sed to create the backup file only if the suffix is = > given to -i, like gnu sed does. > >>=20 > >=20 > > No, no .. there have been several failed attempts at that that cause = > nasty side effects. > > It is also a rather non-standardish thing to do. > >=20 > > Pedro. > >=20 > >> --- > >> Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. > >> Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. > >> This old phone only supports top post. Apologies. > >>=20 > >> Cy Schubert > >> <cy.schub...@cschubert.com> <mailto:cy.schub...@cschubert.com> or = > <c...@freebsd.org> <mailto:c...@freebsd.org> > >> The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. > >> --- > >> From: Devin Teske > >> Sent: 05/12/2017 07:35 > >> To: Hans Petter Selasky > >> Cc: rgri...@freebsd.org <mailto:rgri...@freebsd.org>; c...@freebsd.org = > <mailto:c...@freebsd.org>; Eitan Adler; src-committers; = > svn-src-...@freebsd.org <mailto:svn-src-...@freebsd.org>; = > svn-src-head@freebsd.org <mailto:svn-src-head@freebsd.org> > >> Subject: Re: svn commit: r326554 - in head: . usr.bin/sponge = > usr.bin/sponge/tests usr.bin/tee > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> > On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:00 AM, Hans Petter Selasky <h...@selasky.org> = > <mailto:h...@selasky.org> wrote: > >> >=20 > >> >> On 12/05/17 13:58, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >> >> Further more, why does freebsd need this in base? > >> >=20 > >> > Hi, > >> >=20 > >> > I think this is useful. It could replace the "-i " (intermediate) = > option for "sed" for example. It avoids creating temporary files when = > filtering files, right? > >> >=20 > >> > --HPS > >> >=20 > >>=20 > >> Wth is wrong with: > >>=20 > >> data=3D$( sed -e '...' somefile ) && > >> =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD= > =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD echo "$data" > = > somefile > >>=20 > >> or > >>=20 > >> set -e > >> data=3D... > >> echo "$data" > ... > >>=20 > >> or > >>=20 > >> exec 3<<EOF > >> $( ... ) > >> EOF > >> cat > ... <&3 > >>=20 > >> or > >>=20 > >> (I digress) > >>=20 > >> Infinite variations, but the gist is that sponge looks to be trying = > to help sh(1)/similar when help is unneeded. > >>=20 > >> Why buffer data into memory via fork-exec-pipe to sponge when you can = > buffer to native namespace without pipe to sponge? > >>=20 > >> Am I missing something? Why do we need sponge(1)? > >> --=20 > >> Devin > >>=20 > >=20 > > > --Apple-Mail=_50E4FA92-D46B-44D0-AA71-CE18C2B93B8C > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=utf-8 > > <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = > -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" = > class=3D"">Hello;<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote = > type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:17, Cy = > Schubert <<a href=3D"mailto:cy.schub...@komquats.com"; = > class=3D"">cy.schub...@komquats.com</a>> wrote:</div><br = > class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""> > <meta content=3D"text/html;=0D > charset=3Dwindows-1252" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" class=3D""> > =20 > <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" text=3D"#000000" class=3D""><div = > class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: = > 11pt;" class=3D"">What side effects? Can you give one or two examples, = > please?<br class=3D""><br = > class=3D""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br = > class=3D""></div>Sorry, I forgot the details .. but I am pretty sure = > there was exp-run and breakage in the ports tree.</div><div><br = > class=3D""></div><div>Pedro.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote = > type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" = > text=3D"#000000" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: = > Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">---<br class=3D"">Sent = > using a tiny phone keyboard.<br class=3D"">Apologies for any typos and = > autocorrect.<br class=3D"">This old phone only supports top post. = > Apologies.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cy Schubert<br class=3D""><<a = > href=3D"mailto:cy.schub...@cschubert.com"; = > class=3D"">cy.schub...@cschubert.com</a>> or <<a = > href=3D"mailto:c...@freebsd.org"; class=3D"">c...@freebsd.org</a>><br = > class=3D"">The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.<br = > class=3D"">---<br class=3D""></div></div><hr class=3D""><span = > style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: = > bold;" class=3D"">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family: = > Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Pedro Giffuni</span><br = > class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: = > 10pt; font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">Sent: </span><span = > style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" = > class=3D"">05/12/2017 08:40</span><br class=3D""><span = > style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: = > bold;" class=3D"">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family: = > Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Cy Schubert; Devin = > Teske; Hans Petter Selasky</span><br class=3D""><span = > style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: = > bold;" class=3D"">Cc: </span><span style=3D"font-family: = > Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><a = > href=3D"mailto:rgri...@freebsd.org"; class=3D"">rgri...@freebsd.org</a>; = > <a href=3D"mailto:c...@freebsd.org"; class=3D"">c...@freebsd.org</a>; Eitan = > Adler; src-committers; <a href=3D"mailto:svn-src-...@freebsd.org"; = > class=3D"">svn-src-...@freebsd.org</a>; <a = > href=3D"mailto:svn-src-head@freebsd.org"; = > class=3D"">svn-src-head@freebsd.org</a></span><br class=3D""><span = > style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: = > bold;" class=3D"">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family: = > Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Re: svn commit: r326554 = > - in head: . usr.bin/spongeusr.bin/sponge/tests usr.bin/tee</span><br = > class=3D""><br class=3D""><p class=3D""><br class=3D""> > </p> > <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 05/12/2017 11:29, Cy Schubert = > wrote:<br class=3D""> > </div> > <blockquote cite=3D"mid:20171205162926.9f16c...@spqr.komquats.com" = > type=3D"cite" class=3D""> > =20 > <div class=3D""> > <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" = > class=3D"">Why > not update sed to create the backup file only if the suffix is > given to -i, like gnu sed does.<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > </div> > </div> > </blockquote> > <br class=3D""> > No, no .. there have been several failed attempts at that that cause > nasty side effects.<br class=3D""> > It is also a rather non-standardish thing to do.<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > Pedro.<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > <blockquote cite=3D"mid:20171205162926.9f16c...@spqr.komquats.com" = > type=3D"cite" class=3D""> > <div class=3D""> > <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" = > class=3D"">---<br class=3D""> > Sent using a tiny phone keyboard.<br class=3D""> > Apologies for any typos and autocorrect.<br class=3D""> > This old phone only supports top post. Apologies.<br class=3D"">= > > <br class=3D""> > Cy Schubert<br class=3D""> > <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" = > href=3D"mailto:cy.schub...@cschubert.com";><cy.schub...@cschubert.com>= > ;</a> or <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" = > href=3D"mailto:c...@freebsd.org";><c...@freebsd.org></a><br class=3D""> > The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.<br = > class=3D""> > ---<br class=3D""> > </div> > </div> > <hr class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; = > font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">From: </span><span = > style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" = > class=3D"">Devin Teske</span><br class=3D""> > <span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; = > font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family: = > Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">05/12/2017 = > 07:35</span><br class=3D""> > <span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; = > font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family: = > Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Hans Petter = > Selasky</span><br class=3D""> > <span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; = > font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">Cc: </span><span style=3D"font-family: = > Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><a = > class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" = > href=3D"mailto:rgri...@freebsd.org";>rgri...@freebsd.org</a>; > <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" = > href=3D"mailto:c...@freebsd.org";>c...@freebsd.org</a>; Eitan Adler; = > src-committers; > <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" = > href=3D"mailto:svn-src-...@freebsd.org";>svn-src-...@freebsd.org</a>; <a = > class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" = > href=3D"mailto:svn-src-head@freebsd.org";>svn-src-head@freebsd.org</a></spa= > n><br class=3D""> > <span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; = > font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:= > Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Re: svn commit: r326554 = > - > in head: . usr.bin/sponge usr.bin/sponge/tests = > usr.bin/tee</span><br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > > On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:00 AM, Hans Petter Selasky > <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" = > href=3D"mailto:h...@selasky.org";><h...@selasky.org></a> wrote:<br = > class=3D""> > > <br class=3D""> > >> On 12/05/17 13:58, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:<br class=3D""> > >> Further more, why does freebsd need this in base?<br = > class=3D""> > > <br class=3D""> > > Hi,<br class=3D""> > > <br class=3D""> > > I think this is useful. It could replace the "-i " > (intermediate) option for "sed" for example. It avoids creating > temporary files when filtering files, right?<br class=3D""> > > <br class=3D""> > > --HPS<br class=3D""> > > <br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > Wth is wrong with:<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > data=3D$( sed -e '...' somefile ) &&<br class=3D""> > =C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2= > =BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD echo "$data" = > > somefile<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > or<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > set -e<br class=3D""> > data=3D...<br class=3D""> > echo "$data" > ...<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > or<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > exec 3<<EOF<br class=3D""> > $( ... )<br class=3D""> > EOF<br class=3D""> > cat > ... <&3<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > or<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > (I digress)<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > Infinite variations, but the gist is that sponge looks to be > trying to help sh(1)/similar when help is unneeded.<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > Why buffer data into memory via fork-exec-pipe to sponge when you > can buffer to native namespace without pipe to sponge?<br = > class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > Am I missing something? Why do we need sponge(1)?<br class=3D""> > -- <br class=3D""> > Devin<br class=3D""> > <br class=3D""> > </blockquote> > <br class=3D""> > =20 > > </div></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></body></html>= > > --Apple-Mail=_50E4FA92-D46B-44D0-AA71-CE18C2B93B8C-- _______________________________________________ svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
