> On Jun 12, 2018, at 7:10 AM, Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Devin Teske <dte...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Devin Teske <dte...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 7:07 AM, Warner Losh <i...@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Devin Teske <dte...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> At BSD Can there was the boot working group where we discussed that an FCP 
>>>> would be required to decide this.
>>> 
>>> In the working group you weren't listening and being rather combative and 
>>> demanding that I do stuff,
>> 
>> I think that's an unfair characterization of the situation, but it doesn't 
>> matter -- that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
> 
> I would like to unconditionally apologize for my harsh words to Devin here. I 
> let my frustration get the better of me, which I should not have done. Devin 
> has been quite helpful for a long time with the boot loader and things 
> related to FORTH, and I should not have lashed out like this. I hope she can 
> forgive my ill-chosen words.

Thanks Warner. Forgiven if you can forgive any harshness from me at BSDCan.

I also have to apologize for my performance in the working group. It could have 
been better and I kind of monopolized the conversation. Apologies.

>>> so I stopped talking.
>> 
>> Hopefully we can _start_ talking. As the principled author of this work, I 
>> want to have a say in its deprecation since I still maintain that body of 
>> work.
> 
> Yes. Work is underway to get a draft of a FCP together to start a discussion 
> in arch to come to a data-driven decision. There's no desire to exclude you 
> from this process.
> 

Excellent. Looking forward to helping strike a good balance for the path 
forward for a smooth transition between boot languages.

Devin
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