I think you should make a test copy of this page and remove not just comment
out.  You have to be careful when commenting out since you interupting
comments - meaning they end before your expecting.  As a result you have a
malformed page a clsing script tag and also a closing object - errors like
this may stop you entire page working - this is the importance of validation
- this page is not passing validation.  Removing these bits I expect will
make it pass validation and also the menu should start working again using
the swfoject dynaimc method.

There is no sense in having the 'run active code', the object/embed and
swfobject you only need the swfobject method with some alternative content
for those without the plugin etc (see list menus below)

list menus
a list generator for list menus - makes mark and also the css. great to
learn from this very interactive
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/

for all discussions of use of web standards
*webstandardsgroup*.org/ - just don't mention flash here

- S


2009/3/29 kip <[email protected]>

>
> Hi Sam,
>
> Wow! Fast response. Thanks!
>
> Okay, I did remove the embed section of the script with no ill
> effects.
>
> But the following sections:
>
> <script src="Scripts/AC_RunActiveContent.js" type=
>
> "text/javascript"></script>
>
> - and -
>
> <script type="text/javascript">
>
> AC_FL_RunContent( 'codebase','http://download.macromedia.com/pub/
> shockwave/cabs/flash/
> swflash.cab#version=9,0,28,0<http://download.macromedia.com/pub/%0Ashockwave/cabs/flash/%0Aswflash.cab#version=9,0,28,0>
> ','width','500','height','250','align','top','src','menu','quality','high','pluginspage','http://
>
> www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
> ','wmode','transparent','movie','menu'
> ); //end AC code
>
> </script>
>
> Removing this removed the ability to view the swf menu after
> uploading ... is that right?
>
> I will soon be upgrading to DW CS4 so I am HOPING DW will have
> resolved this issue...but I won't hold my breath.
>
> And I have to ask, I went to the W3C HTML validator and I still have a
> boatload of errors... but in the FF plugin, I have zero. Is this an
> issue with the W3C validator?
>
> Thanks for all the time you have put into this... I have viewed MANY
> websites that don't meet the W3C validator from professional design
> services, and I haven't run into any that pass so far. So is this
> something I should even be concerned with? I know its off the beaten
> path here...sorry.
>
> Let me know about that script that I talked about above...
>
> Thanks a ton,
> K.
>
>
>
> On Mar 29, 12:37 am, kip <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Sam,
> >
> > I just wanted to let you know that I figured out the issue with the
> > menu dropping down behind the swf object. It was in the CSS. I have
> > the object embedded into a div container that was ona css sheet that
> > is shared with all the other pages. For whatever reason, I changed
> > that container, and low and behold, it works. Thanks for all the help.
> > I see no issues with firebug...now the other big question I have, does
> > swfobject ever pass the W3C html code validator? Not that it has to be
> > pristine, but you know, it would be nice to get a page with flash in
> > it to pass the validations for once.
> >
> > Thanks for all the help. It is very much appreciated.
> > K.
> >
> > On Mar 27, 4:12 am, Sam Sherlock <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > a few things see below :)
> >
> > > > ok, not sure I did it 100%
> > > > right, but it works
> >
> > > get it working then improve it
> >
> > > your cuurent issue can be resolved by using para.wmode transparent.
> > > Transparent makes the flash object in page see through and enables
> z-index
> > > to be altered.  You have to be care with hotzones (active clickable
> areas)
> > > where hotzones occupy the same page area oddd things will happen.
>  google
> > > 'z-index wmode transparent conflicts' to see more information on this.
> >
> > > WMODE is a param you can add param.wmode = "transparent"; below
> params.quality
> > > = "high";
> >
> > > also you should be able to remove
> >
> > > <script src="Scripts/AC_RunActiveContent.js"
> type="text/javascript"></script>
> >
> > > <script src="Scripts/AC_ActiveX.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
> >
> > > and also combine the script blocks which have the swfObject setups into
> a
> > > single block which you can place in the head of your doc
> >
> > > further you have
> >
> > >     <object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
> > > codebase="
> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#v...";
> > > width="500" height="250" align="top">
> >
> > >           <param name="movie" value="menu.swf" />
> >
> > >           <param name="quality" value="high" />
> >
> > >           <param name="wmode" value="transparent" />
> > >           <embed src="menu.swf" width="500" height="250" align="top"
> > > quality="high" pluginspage="
> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=...";
> > > type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent"></embed>
> >
> > >         </object>
> >
> > > the above could be replaced with alt content, which could be a css list
> menu
> >
> > > Another issue has arisen - your new flash piece pushes your page footer
> out
> > > of vision.  'Copyrights 2009 © Jack Pine Web Design. All Rights
> reserved' is
> > > not fully visible with the all.swf in there :)
> > >  - S
> >
> > > 2009/3/27 kip <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > Hi Sam,
> >
> > > > Thanks for the reply. It really helped. So I got the swf to play in
> > > > the index, about, and am working ont he other pages...here is the new
> > > > dilemma.
> >
> > > > I have a web video page that I embedded flv movies into, created one
> > > > large swf file and now am working to get the menu and the all.swf to
> > > > play nice with each other... like true siblings, they are fighting.
> >
> > > > SOOOO...I did use the swfobject.js 2.x for the menu and cleared the
> > > > other errors from firebig. What a life saver. Thanks. Worked great
> > > > once I figured it out. Not your directions mnd you just my brain.
> >
> > > > Okay...then I hit the web_video page, and I even generated new code
> > > > from the air generator and got it to work (ok, not sure I did it 100%
> > > > right, but it works) they load, the menuloads, but now the drop down
> > > > portfolio button drops down behind the all.swf. I have wmode set to
> > > > transparent on both, the z-index is set to 1020 for the
> menu.swf...but
> > > > still I can't seem to get it to show on top of the the all.swf.
> >
> > > > see it at:
> > > >http://www.jackpinewebdesign.com/web_video.html
> >
> > > > Now what am I doing wrong here?
> >
> > > > Thanks for the time you have taken for me...I appreciate it.
> > > > K.
> >
> > > > On Mar 26, 9:18 pm, Sam Sherlock <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi K,
> >
> > > > > 3 things.
> >
> > > > > 1) Your using swfobject 1.5 - your syntax is 1.5
> > > > > 2) Your missing a div with the id of flashContent
> >
> > > > > <div id="flashContent"></div>
> >
> > > > > 3) Your swf is in the page using object / embed - this is why you
> have
> > > > > the swf displaying -
> > > > > it does not need embed using swf object at all
> >
> > > > > 4) </noscript> has no beginning tag you can remove this.
> >
> > > > > correcting point two will get you page using swfobject 1.5 to
> embed,
> >
> > > > > you may ve better off using swfobject 2.x
> >
> > > > > - S
> >
> > > > > 2009/3/26 kip <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > > > Hi,
> >
> > > > > > Okay, I finally have major success with getting my menu to
> finally
> > > > > > play in FF and IE...now for the down side: I am getting an error
> in
> > > > > > Firebug that states
> > > > > > "n is null
> > > > > > SWFObject()("flashContent")swfobject.js (line 8)
> > > > > >www.jackpinewebdesign.com()()"
> >
> > > > > > I ended up contacting the creator of the menu to help me with
> this as
> > > > > > I was getting nowhere with the swfObject on my own...not sure why
> that
> > > > > > is... I guess I just don't understand enough to be effective:(
> > > > > > I know everyone here was great to help out...I just wasn't
> getting it.
> > > > > > He is actually the one who put me on to swfObject...although I'm
> not
> > > > > > too sure he actually used the generator for this. When posting
> back,
> > > > > > can you please tell me what exactly needs to replace what? I am
> just
> > > > > > now learning js in college... whew...crazy... but it is helping
> me to
> > > > > > understand other coding a little better too.I think I learn more
> in
> > > > > > places like this anyway.
> >
> > > > > > so here is the link:
> > > > > >http://www.jackpinewebdesign.com/
> > > > > > and
> > > > > >http://www.jackpinewebdesign.com/test.html
> >
> > > > > >  Any help with this would be appreciated.
> >
> > > > > > Thanks everyone!
> > > > > > K.
> >
> > > > > > On Mar 22, 10:06 pm, "Aran Rhee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > The easiest thing to do is to post a link to your page.
> >
> > > > > > > Aran
> >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]]
> > > > On
> >
> > > > > > > Behalf Of kip
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, 23 March 2009 1:47 PM
> > > > > > > To: SWFObject
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Can't view swf in html page after embedding
> >
> > > > > > > Would anyone be willing to look at the falsh file to see if
> there is
> > > > a
> > > > > > > conflict with swfObject. I cannot get this to work.
> >
> > > > > > > On Mar 22, 5:58 pm, kip <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Yep, I got that and the standalone version as well...although
> I am
> > > > > > > > using the online ATM.
> >
> > > > > > > > Thank you both!
> >
> > > > > > > > I now have another question. I use Dreamweaver currently...I
> am
> > > > > > > > wondering if  I am doing this right. I seem to be missing
> something
> > > > > > > > drastic here. With the new code form the generator:
> >
> > > > > > > > <script type="text/javascript"
> src="js/swfobject.js"></script>
> > > > > > > >                 <script type="text/javascript">
> > > > > > > >                         var flashvars = {};
> > > > > > > >                         var params = {};
> > > > > > > >                         params.menu = "false";
> > > > > > > >                         params.wmode = "transparent";
> > > > > > > >                         var attributes = {};
> > > > > > > >                         swfobject.embedSWF("menu.swf",
> "nav_cont",
> > > > > > "500",
> > > > > > > "300", "8.0.0",
> > > > > > > > "expressInstall.swf", flashvars, params, attributes);
> > > > > > > >                 </script>
> >
> > > > > > > > Do I still insert the .swf file like I normally would,
> because that
> > > > > > > > generates new code:
> >
> > > > > > > > <object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
> > > > > > > > codebase="
> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/
> > > > > > > > swflash.cab#version=9,0,28,0" width="500" height="300">
> > > > > > > >           <param name="movie" value="menu.swf" />
> > > > > > > >           <param name="quality" value="high" />
> > > > > > > >           <embed src="menu.swf" quality="high"
> > > > > > > pluginspage="
> > > > > >http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Ve
> > > > > > > rsion=Shockwa..."
> > > > > > > > type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="500"
> > > > height="300"></embed>
> > > > > > > >         </object>
> >
> > > > > > > > I can now get the movie to play in the design window, but
> still
> > > > zero
> > > > > > > > success on the uploaded page. It still fails to appear. Do I
> need
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > enter code in the .FLA file Actionscript layer somewhere?
> >
> > > > > > > > Am I doing this wrong?
> >
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > > > K.
> >
> > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 5:46 pm, GWLogic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > Kip,
> >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, you need to have Adobe AIR installed as an
> application, but
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > SWFObject AIR Generator can be found here :-
> >
> > > > > > > > >http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/
> >
> > > > > > > > > Its on the right hand side under the files for download
> listing.
> >
> > > > > > > > > The link Kyle posted is great for using when you are online
> (
> > > > thanks
> > > > > > > > > for the link Kyle, will use that ) but I find the
> standalone
> > > > download
> > > > > > > > > of the Generator is useful for when I'm working offline.
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 10:26 pm, "Getify Solutions, Inc." <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Use the online
> > > > > > > generator:
> > > >http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/swfobject/generator/index.html
> >
> > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > From: "kip" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:22 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: "SWFObject"
> >
> > ...
> >
> > read more »
> >
>

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