Hi Josh.

I hear you. The success boolean is exactly as you state - "report(s) if the
min
Flash player is available and that the <object> dom element for the
SWF was created"

I have updated the documentation on both the main doc page and in more
detail on the API page method descriptions.


Cheers,
Aran



On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Joshua Beall <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Oct 22 2010, 7:12 pm, Aran Rhee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > so what you are saying is correct in that the "success" swfobject is
> > measuring if the minimum flash player was available and if the <object>
> dom
> > element which was made for the swf was actually created and available. As
> > far as successful embedding goes, this is all that is required.
>
> I got hung up on this myself.  I realize this is an old thread, but
> the docs still haven't been updated to clarify what the callback
> function *really* is doing, so it's worth revisiting.
>
> Suppose you did a survey of Flash developers and asked them "You are
> using SWFObject to put a SWF on a page, and a user visits the page.
> For that user, the SWF fails to download successfully.  Has the SWF
> been embedded successfully or not?"  What do you think the consensus
> would be?
>
> Obviously it would be "no, it was unsuccessful."  Think about the
> plain sense of the phrase "embedded successfully."  It's not
> successful if it doesn't download!  To say otherwise would be like
> saying a car runs successfully because the starter motor turns over--
> even if the engine itself won't start.
>
> The documentation should be written so that it is clear and plain, and
> not depend on readers to comprehend technical subtleties like "the SWF
> file can be blocked or missing but we will still consider it embedded
> successfully because that's how we define 'embedded'."
>
> If the best we can do in the callback function is report if the min
> Flash player is available and that the <object> dom element for the
> SWF was created, that's what the docs should say.
>
>  -Josh

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