> On Oct 22, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Chris Lattner <clatt...@apple.com> wrote: > >> On Oct 20, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Joe Groff via swift-dev <swift-dev@swift.org> >> wrote: >>> >>> copysign( ) is a reason to not pick the first option. I’m not very worried >>> about it, but it is a reason. I see no problem with the second option. >> >> As we discussed in person this morning, de-canonicalizing b11 might be a >> better compromise to minimize the potential impact of layout optimizations. >> That would leave the implementation with 2^51 NaN representations (50 >> significand bits, plus the sign bit) in Double to play with, which ought to >> be enough for anyone™. I liked the idea of using the sign bit originally >> since testing for NaNs and sign bits is something that can be easily done >> using common FPU instructions without crossing domains, but as you noted, it >> sounds like comparison and branching operations tend to do that anyway, so >> masking and branching using integer operations shouldn't be too much of a >> burden. Jordan's question of to what degree we consider different NaN >> encodings to be distinct semantic values is still an interesting one, but if >> we take only the b11 NaN payloads away, that should minimize the degree to >> which the implementation needs to be considered as a constraint in having >> that discussion. > > To your original email, I agree this is an important problem to tackle, and > that we should handle the inhabitant masking when the FP value is converted > to optional. > > That said, I don’t understand the above. With the “b11” representation, what > how is a "Double?" tested for “.None"? One advantage of using the signbit is > that “is negative” comparisons are very cheap on risc systems, because you > don’t have to materialize a large/weird immediate.
That's why I liked using the sign bit originally too. Steve noted that, since any operation on an Optional is probably going to involve testing and branching before revealing the underlying float value, and float comparisons and branches tend to unavoidably burn a couple cycles engaging the integer ALU, there's unlikely to be much benefit on ARM or Intel avoiding integer masking operations. (More strictly RISCy architectures like Power would be more negatively impacted, perhaps.) On ARM64 at least, the bitmask for a b11 NaN is still representable as an immediate, since it involves a single contiguous run of 1 bits. -Joe _______________________________________________ swift-dev mailing list swift-dev@swift.org https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-dev
