> On 2 Nov 2017, at 1:33 pm, Erik Eckstein <eeckst...@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 2, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Johannes Weiß <johanneswe...@apple.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Definitely a +1 from me, a haven't recently seen much of a difference either.
>> 
>> Said that I do sometimes use it in a micro-benchmark just to convince myself 
>> we don't lose much performance on the checks. Usually it turns out fine, I'm 
>> happy and move on. But I guess there's some value in being able to elide a 
>> lot of checks just to see how much of a difference it does. And if there's a 
>> big difference then I'd try to optimise the program and elide unnecessary 
>> checks myself. Clearly -Ounchecked should never be used in any real code but 
>> I find having a baseline when optimising performance very helpful and 
>> -Ounchecked sometimes seemed like a cheap, automatic baseline for some code 
>> ;).
>> 
>> And lastly I always thought having it as an 'optimisation' is a misnomer, 
>> it's not an optimisation as it clearly changes the semantics of the program 
>> quite a bit. I thought '-unsafe-remove-checks' or something describes it 
>> better, a bit like '-assume-single-threaded’.
> 
> I like that idea. We could add such an option.

awesome, that's be a +💯 from me then 🙂


> 
> Daniel, I think that’s also what you were asking for.
> 
> 
>> But probably the 'no checks' mode adds too much complexity to just keep it 
>> around for a questionable way to do performance baselines.
>> 
>>> On 2 Nov 2017, at 9:52 am, Erik Eckstein via swift-dev 
>>> <swift-dev@swift.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I’d like to propose to deprecate the -Ounchecked swift optimization mode.
>>> 
>>> The -Ounchecked mode actually contradicts one of the main goals of swift: 
>>> to be a safe language.
>>> In the past we didn’t see lot of significant performance differences 
>>> compared to -O (there were some improvements but also some regressions).
>>> Also, we want to reduce the effort of maintaining too many different 
>>> optimization modes, especially because we recently added -Osize.
>>> 
>>> Deprecating would mean that we map -Ounchecked to -O.
>>> 
>>> If you have any comments or concerns, please let me know
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Erik
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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