> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:19 PM, Ted F.A. van Gaalen <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> On Chris’s advice, I’ve spawned this into a new discussion topic, for which 
> the base could be
> part of what I wrote in relation to SE-0007. 
> 
> 
> Hello Patrick
> as I wrote: 
> As a result of removing the classical for loop it is to be expected that lot 
> of people might consider thinking twice about switching to Swift, If they 
> have to live without (or cumbersome work around) language elements that have 
> proven to be very useful for at least a few decades...

There are two groups of people to consider:

1) OS X and iOS developers; this group is stuck with whatever the language 
brings them, for good or bad. If this group of people doesn't like a decision 
made by the community, they can grumble about it for awhile, suck in a deep 
breath, and move on.

2) Others; this group may be considering using Swift to develop software on 
other platforms and in other environments. If this group of people doesn't like 
a decision made by the community, they may think twice and it could 
significantly impact the uptake by this group of developers. I think it is wise 
that the community lubricate the transition to Swift as much as possible for 
this group of developers. I ask if leaving this kind of syntax in the language 
is so bad? Does it fall in the same category as removing function currying? My 
gut tells me not, but I could be wrong.

> 
> I also find it of the most importance to keep Swift accessible for all kinds 
> of programmers
> from starters to academic. 
> 
> Graig Federighi said 
> We think it should be everywhere and used by everyone.
> 
> 
> I subscribe to that.
> 
> 
> -TedvG
> 
> 

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