<responding to several posts in this thread at once>

On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Per Doug’s email, the core team agrees we should make a change here, but 
> would like some bikeshedding to happen on the replacement name for private.

What we do with private setters is orthogonal from this proposal, so I’m going 
to ignore it in this thread.  After SE-0025 is resolved, it would be great to 
have another thread/proposal that discusses reskinning private(set) - 
presumably as just a modifier on the setter.

Similarly, this proposal has nothing to do with “protected” or any other type 
based access control, so I don’t delve into that at all either.

I’ve seen several proposals that seem promising:

On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:49 PM, James Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
> I like fileprivate, if that’s the only change. On the other hand, if we want 
> to consider a broader change, what about:
> 
>       private                 symbol visible within the current declaration 
> (class, extension, etc).
>       private(module) symbol visible within the current module.
>       private(file)           symbol visible within the current file.

I love how this establishes a family with different levels of access control, 
and unites them under the idea of "levels of being private”.  I also like how 
people would commonly only ever write public and private (because 
“private(module)” is the default, and "private(file)" is obscure).  However, 
parenthesized modifiers that take a keyword (as opposed to an identifier) are a 
bit weird and awkward, so it would be nice to avoid them if possible.

On Mar 15, 2016, at 3:39 AM, Thorsten Seitz via swift-evolution 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> public
> private-module
> private-file
> private

This follows the same sort of structure as James’ proposal, without the parens. 
 It has the same advantages, but trades them with hyphenated decl modifiers.  
We don’t do that, but it is a good direction.

How about we continue this trend, and follow other existing Swift keywords that 
merge two lowercase words (associatedtype, typealias, etc), and use:

        public
        moduleprivate
        fileprivate
        private

The advantages, as I see them are:
1) We keep public and private meaning the “right” and “obvious” things.
2) The declmodifiers “read” correctly.
3) The unusual ones (moduleprivate and fileprivate) don’t use the awkward 
parenthesized keyword approach.
4) The unusual ones would be “googable”.
5) Support for named submodules could be “dropped in” by putting the submodule 
name/path in parens: private(foo.bar.baz) or moduleprivate(foo.bar).  Putting 
an identifier in the parens is much more natural than putting keywords in 
parens.

What do you all think?

-Chris


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