> On Apr 14, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Milos Rankovic via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Andrey and Laurent,
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2016, at 19:23, Andrey Tarantsov <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Can you please give us a few real-world examples where initializing a 
>> nontrivial tree-like data structure in code would be useful?
>> 
>> It's an honest question — I have never felt the need in my life, and I 
>> always preferred to move the data into something like a bundled json or CSV, 
>> rather than providing it in code.
> 
> I suppose we always prefer to move *all* data into databases or files with 
> dedicated data formats, *including* arrays, strings, dictionaries, etc. Sure. 
> But it would be rather underwhelming if you could not also just instantiate 
> an array or a string from a literal.
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2016, at 19:33, L Mihalkovic <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’d rather the language do NOT make it easy to have complex literals 
>> initializations
> 
> 
> I agree, except, something like `[1, [2]]` doesn’t immediately strike me by 
> its complexity. Likewise, I find it a little deflating that I cannot express 
> a piece of JSON in code. My example structures do allow you to write:
> 
> let _: DictionaryTree<String, String> =
> [
>       "name": ◊"Johnny Appleseed",
>       "address": [
>               "streetAddress": ◊"21 2nd Street",
>               "city": ◊"New York"
>       ]
> ]
> 
> … but I cannot get rid of that prefix operator without the additional 
> literal-convertible protocols. Given the *simplicity* of these structures, it 
> seems it should not be beyond Swift to represent them in code with ease and 
> elegance. And to begin with, all we need are those couple of protocols.

I mean, you could just make your Tree type implement all the individual 
literal-convertible protocols.

John.
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