> Why not remove varargs altogether from Swift, it is easy enough to put [] 
> round a list?

+1, that was my thought too. I can’t think of a use case where you can’t use an 
array instead of varargs (this assumes all vararg parameters are converted to 
array parameters).

- Dennis

> On Apr 18, 2016, at 12:48 AM, Howard Lovatt via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Why not remove varargs altogether from Swift, it is easy enough to put [] 
> round a list?
> 
> On Monday, 18 April 2016, Keith Smiley via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> We've been dealing with this as well. We've chosen to go with your option 1 
> for
> most of our cases, sometimes dropping varargs all together and just using the
> array signature.
> 
> It would be great if you could have a safe apply function for this.
> 
> --
> Keith Smiley
> 
> On 04/17, Justin Jia via swift-evolution wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Currently, we can’t call a variadic function with an array of arguments.
> >
> > Reference:
> > 1. 
> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24024376/passing-an-array-to-a-function-with-variable-number-of-args-in-swift
> >  
> > <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24024376/passing-an-array-to-a-function-with-variable-number-of-args-in-swift>
> >  
> > <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24024376/passing-an-array-to-a-function-with-variable-number-of-args-in-swift
> >  
> > <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24024376/passing-an-array-to-a-function-with-variable-number-of-args-in-swift>>
> > 2. https://www.drivenbycode.com/the-missing-apply-function-in-swift/ 
> > <https://www.drivenbycode.com/the-missing-apply-function-in-swift/> 
> > <https://www.drivenbycode.com/the-missing-apply-function-in-swift/ 
> > <https://www.drivenbycode.com/the-missing-apply-function-in-swift/>>
> >
> > Consider the following use case:
> >
> > ```
> > func average(numbers: Double…) -> Double {
> >    return sum(numbers) / numbers.count // Error: Cannot convert value of 
> > type ‘[Double]’ to expected argument type ‘Double'
> > }
> >
> > func sum(numbers: Double...) -> Double { … }
> > ```
> >
> > Right now, there are two ways to fix it:
> >
> > 1. Add another function that accept `[Double]` as input.
> >
> > ```
> > func average(numbers: Double…) -> Double {
> >    return sum(numbers) / numbers.count
> > }
> >
> > func sum(numbers: Double...) -> Double {
> >    return sum(numbers)
> > }
> >
> > func sum(numbers: [Double]) -> Double { … }
> > ```
> >
> > 2. Implement an `apply()` function using `unsafeBitCast`.
> >
> > ```
> > func average(numbers: Double…) -> Double {
> >    return sum(apply(numbers)) / numbers.count
> > }
> >
> > func sum(numbers: [Double]) -> Double { … }
> >
> > func apply<T, U>(fn: (T...) -> U, args: [T]) -> U {
> >    typealias FunctionType = [T] -> U
> >    return unsafeBitCast(fn, FunctionType.self)(args)
> > }
> > ```
> >
> > However, both solutions are not very elegant. The first solution requires 
> > the library author to implement both functions, and the second solution 
> > breaks the guarantees of Swift’s type system.
> >
> > Swift should allow passing an array to variadic functions, or we should 
> > somehow implement a type-safe `apply()` function in the standard library.
> >
> > Justin
> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> -- Howard.
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