What is your evaluation of the proposal?
I reluctantly agree with the proposal with the following caveat: I do not agree 
with the rationale to support being able to choose to omit the () for the 
parameter list of the closure declaration.

I see no cohesive argument that says that the parens should be required in some 
cases but not in others when talking about parameter lists.

I believe the proposal should be amended that the following should be the only 
allowable forms:

y = x.sorted { (lhs : Int, rhs : Int) -> Bool in rhs < lhs }
y = x.sorted { (lhs, rhs) in rhs < lhs }
y = x.sorted { $1 < $0 }

I’ve bolded the change above, today this is allowable:

y = x.sorted { lhs, rhs in rhs < lhs }

I’ve read the argument about why it’s ok to elide the parens here, I simply 
disagree with the author’s premise that this is a structurally significant 
different form. Not requiring the parens for this parameter list begs the 
question why other forms require them and provides a similar ambiguity of 
whether the closure takes two parameters or a single tuple parameter from both 
of these valid syntaxes today:

y = x.sorted { lhs, rhs in rhs < lhs }
y = x.sorted { (lhs, rhs) in rhs < lhs }

I don’t see how this is fundamentally different than the example in the 
“Motivation” section:

(Int, Float) -> Int // Takes two arguments, or takes one two-argument tuple?

While I will concede that `(lhs, rhs)` is not a valid tuple declaration, I’d 
still argue that it’s too subtle of a difference to be used a primary means of 
justification. If we are going to remove the ambiguity, let’s remove it for all 
parameter list scenarios.

Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?
Potentially.

Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?
Yes.

How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an 
in-depth study?
I participated in the original discussion thread as well as tested out many 
different combinations function and closure syntax in the Swift Playground.

-David



> On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:22 PM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution 
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> Hello Swift community,
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