> On Apr 27, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Erica Sadun <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> From the Swift Programming Language: Methods on a subclass that override the 
> superclass’s implementation are marked with override—overriding a method by 
> accident, without override, is detected by the compiler as an error. The 
> compiler also detects methods with override that don’t actually override any 
> method in the superclass.
> 
> I would like to extend this cautious approach to protocols, forcing the 
> developer to deliberately override an implementation that’s inherited from a 
> protocol extension. This would prevent accidental overrides and force the 
> user to proactively choose to implement a version of a protocol member that 
> already exists in the protocol extension.
> 
> I envision this as using the same `override` keyword that’s used in class 
> based inheritance but extend it to protocol inheritance:
> 
> protocol A {
>     func foo()
> }
> 
> extension A {
>     func foo() { .. default implementation … }
> }
> 
> type B: A {
> 
>     override required func foo () { … overrides implementation … }
> }

A couple questions about your pitch:

1) What is “required” doing there? 

2) Is “override” only required when there is a default implementation of the 
protocol requirement, or is it required whenever you are implementing a 
protocol requirement?

        * If the former, it might be the case that it’s too easy to forget to 
add the “override” keyword (because it’s needed for some implementations of 
protocol requirements but not others), which undercuts the value of having it.

        * If the latter, “override” is probably the wrong keyword because it’s 
not overriding anything in the common case of implementing a non-defaulted 
requirement.

> I’d also like to bring up two related topics, although they probably should 
> at some point move to their own thread if they have any legs:
> 
> Related topic 1: How should a consumer handle a situation where two unrelated 
> protocols both require the same member and offer different default 
> implementations. Can they specify which implementation to accept or somehow 
> run both? 
> 
> type B: A, C {
>     override required func foo() { A.foo(); C.foo() }
> }

I think the right answer here is for the compiler to produce an ambiguity if 
you don’t implement the requirement yourself, and then solving your “related 
topic 2” lets you choose which implementation you want.

> Related topic 2: How can a consumer “inherit” the behavior of the default 
> implementation (like calling super.foo() in classes) and then extend that 
> behavior further. This is a bit similar to how the initialization chaining 
> works. I’d like to be able to call A.foo() and then add custom follow-on 
> behavior rather than entirely replacing the behavior.
> 
> type B: A {
>     override required func foo() { A.foo(); … my custom behavior … }
> }

Seems totally reasonable to me. One ugly syntax: A.foo(self)(), leveraging the 
currying of self?

> cc’ing in Jordan who suggested a new thread on this and Doug, who has already 
> expressed some objections so I want him to  have the opportunity to bring 
> that discussion here.

My objections are described here:

        http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.devel/1799/focus=1831 
<http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.devel/1799/focus=1831>

Essentially, my argument is that the point of “override” (as pitched above) is 
to declare the user’s intent to implement a requirement. I feel that the 
explicit protocol conformance ("type B : A”) declares that intent, and that 
various common conventions (e.g., one conformance per extension, where the 
extension is primarily there to conform to the protocol) reinforce intent well 
enough for the compiler to do a good job here. I’d prefer that over another 
boilerplate-y keyword.

        - Doug


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