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> On May 10, 2016, at 12:14 AM, David Hart <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> But it’s reasonably implementable? I guess the answer is yes if you have 
> already faced the same bridging concerns with NSArray/Array. I’de really like 
> this going forward, but I don’t know how confident I am in writing a proposal.

Yes, it's implementable. We do something similar to turn Darwin's BOOL into 
Swift's Bool even though they are representationally different. 

  - Doug

> 
>> On 10 May 2016, at 08:29, Douglas Gregor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2016, at 11:23 PM, David Hart <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why wouldn't it completely eliminate NSRange?
>> 
>> Because NSRange has a different representation than Range<Int> (start+length 
>> vs. start/end), a pointer-to-NSRange has to come in as 
>> Unsafe(Mutable)Pointer<NSRange> rather than 
>> Unsafe(Mutable)Pointer<Range<Int>>. It’s the same reason that (e.g.), an 
>> NSArray** parameter comes in as UnsafeMutablePointer<NSArray> rather than 
>> UnsafeMutablePointer<[AnyObject]>.
>> 
>>> Are you thinking of NSNotFound? Could we migrate those APIs to return an 
>>> Optional Range<Int>?
>> 
>> If you had annotations on the APIs to say that they use NSNotFound as a 
>> sentinel, yes.
>> 
>>    - Doug
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10 May 2016, at 05:49, Douglas Gregor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 8, 2016, at 2:10 PM, David Hart via swift-evolution 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Swift-Evolution,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I spent some time coding on Linux with Swift 3 (latest developement 
>>>>> snapshot) and corelibs-foundation and I’ve hit one major hurdle: passing 
>>>>> and converting NSRange and Range around between the different stdlib and 
>>>>> Foundation APIs - specifically in regards to String.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there a plan to simplify those pain points by converting all 
>>>>> corelibs-foundation APIs to accept/return Range on String instead of 
>>>>> NSRange? In that case, can’t we get rid of NSRange completely?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> One idea that had come up before was to bridge NSRange to Range<Int>, 
>>>> although it wouldn’t completely eliminate NSRange because the two types 
>>>> are not representationally identical.
>>>> 
>>>> - Doug
> 
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