> On May 18, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Joe Groff via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 17, 2016, at 8:56 PM, T.J. Usiyan via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Could we reconsider rejecting the uppercase and lowercase conventions as a 
>> syntactic requirement? While I still disagree with enum cases not being 
>> UpperCamelCase, that decision narrows the 'approved' enough that the 
>> syntactic requirement would line up with guidance. It would also make 
>> teaching the conventions much easier. New students who, for whatever reason, 
>> prefer naming variables with upper camel case would have immediate and 
>> concrete feedback from the dev tools that that is non-idiomatic. 
> 
> Enforcing this at the language level would require us to decide how to handle 
> importing APIs that don't follow the rules. We've put effort into modifying 
> many of the Core Foundation APIs, but not all of them, and there's of course 
> still POSIX and the standard C library. (We'd also need a rule for 
> non-Western scripts that don't distinguish case.)
> 
>> 
>> If that is a non starter, let me try another. Was a disambiguating token 
>> preceding the type reference considered? 
> 
> We expressly wanted to avoid anything like C++'s `typename` and `template` 
> disambiguation hacks.

Thank you for this!  Those are absolutely horrible.

> 
> -Joe
> 
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello Swift community,
>> 
>> The review of "SE-0090: Remove .self and freely allow type references in 
>> expressions" begins now and runs through May 23. The proposal is available 
>> here:
>> 
>>        
>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0090-remove-dot-self.md
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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