> On May 20, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Brandon Knope <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'm pretty sure he meant "cross dependencies”

It’s still unclear to me how namespaces might help in a way that submodules 
wouldn’t.  Can one of you provide an example of the problem you have in mind 
and how it is solved with namespaces?

> 
> Brandon 
> 
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> On May 20, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Adrian Zubarev via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can submodules enforce the developer to use its name ’Submodule.SomeClass’?
>> 
>> Ideally we would have flexible import syntax that allows for control over 
>> *how* names are imported into a lexical context (including the ability to 
>> import names within a very specific scope if desired).
>> 
>>> Do I have to re-build submodules when I made any changes to them before 
>>> building the outside code base?
>> 
>> All submodules are part of the same target as the module that contains them.
>> 
>>> Can they efficiently used for cross decencies between different 
>>> modules/submodules?
>> 
>> Cross decencies?  I don’t understand.
>> 
>>> 
>>> —— 
>>> Empty enums is an abuse of the language! 
>> 
>> But it is a practical and effective one.  Introducing a new construct like 
>> namespaces must carry significant advantages over what is already possible.
>> 
>>> 
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>>> Am 20. Mai 2016 bei 17:49:29, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution 
>>> ([email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>) schrieb:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> > On May 20, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Robert Schwalbe via swift-evolution 
>>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> >> Anyway, I'm +1 for namespaces everywhere, some names can be common. For 
>>>> >> example Node could be related to trees, physics engines and all sorts 
>>>> >> of constructs. "Node" may be a perfectly fine name for these. That 
>>>> >> said, these are sometimes tied to specific types in which case nesting 
>>>> >> them may make more sense, which I believe is already being addressed 
>>>> >> (currently we can't nest generic types)? It's certainly not as simple 
>>>> >> as it can appear!
>>>> > 
>>>> > Absolutely +1 for namespaces.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Even if you despise the concept of namespaces that seems like that can 
>>>> > be addressed by a project and/or company style guide that explicitly 
>>>> > forbids their use.
>>>> > 
>>>> > For the people/projects that would embrace namespaces, namespaces would 
>>>> > be a godsend.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Sure, you can probably pull all kind of stunts to simulate namespaces, 
>>>> > but besides creating additional work for the Swift team (and I do not 
>>>> > say nor take that lightly), they really need to be supported and 
>>>> > implemented at the language/syntax level for first class citizenry.
>>>> 
>>>> What benefit do namespaces provide that submodules would not?
>>>> 
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