> On May 20, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Jordan Rose via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 20, 2016, at 10:25, John McCall <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Jordan Rose via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> On May 14, 2016, at 22:16, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On May 13, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Joe Groff via swift-evolution 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> This encourages the use of empty closures over optional closures, which 
>>>>>> I think is open for debate. In general I try to avoid optionals when 
>>>>>> they can be precisely replaced with a non-optional value. Furthermore, 
>>>>>> most Cocoa completion handlers are not optional.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The alternative is to not do this, but encourage that any closure that 
>>>>>> could reasonably be empty should in fact be optional. I would then want 
>>>>>> Cocoa functions with void-returning closures to be imported as optionals 
>>>>>> to avoid "{ _ in }".
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1. In general, I think we should allow implicit arguments, without 
>>>>> requiring the closure to use all the implicit $n variables like we do 
>>>>> today. These should all be valid:
>>>>> 
>>>>> let _: () -> () = {}
>>>>> let _: (Int) -> () = {}
>>>>> let _: (Int, Int) -> Int = { 5 }
>>>>> let _: (Int, Int) -> Int = { $0 }
>>>>> let _: (Int, Int) -> Int = { $1 }
>>>> 
>>>> I agree, but I consider this to be an obvious bug in the compiler.  I 
>>>> don’t think it requires a proposal.
>>> 
>>> Sorry to find this thread late. I don’t think this is just a bug; it’s also 
>>> a way to check that a parameter isn’t getting forgotten. For a 
>>> single-expression closure that’s probably overkill, but maybe we’d keep the 
>>> restriction for multi-statement closures?
>> 
>> The bug we're talking about is that closures have to have a reference to $n 
>> when there are n+1 parameters.
> 
> Oh, I completely forgot that it’s only $n you have to reference, not $n-1 or 
> anything else. So I guess it’s not quite serving the purpose I thought it was.
> 
> Jordan

Who knew?  http://i.imgur.com/8ytNkn0.jpg <http://i.imgur.com/8ytNkn0.jpg> !

So anyway, how hard a problem is this to fix? And do you want me to submit the 
proposal as a PR or not?

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