> On May 27, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Ricardo Parada via swift-evolution 
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> On May 27, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Matthew Johnson <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>> On May 27, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Ricardo Parada <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What if we get the error when trying to use it?  For example, if a struct 
>>> uses a value that is not Equatable / Hashable then it would not be 
>>> Equatable / Hashable and you would not find out until you tried to use it.  
>>> Would that be bad?
>> 
>> Yes.  It would also be bad if implicit synthesis resulted in an 
>> unintentional and incorrect definition of equality.  By requiring synthesis 
>> to be requested with `deriving` the programmer is at least prompted to 
>> consider the meaning of equality for their type.
> 
> Incorrect definition of equality? Hmm... :-)
> 
> I guess I have been running under the wrong assumption that if a struct uses 
> values that are all Equatable then the default implementation for the struct 
> which will compare the values against the values in the other struct will 
> ALWAYS be correct. But I guess I can come up with an example where some of 
> the values stored in the struct do not play a role in the definition of 
> equality even if those values are Equatable. Then the default implementation 
> would be incorrect. 

A recent one for me was a rational type, e.g. you’d want things like `1/2 == 
2/4` (and in this case I didn’t want an implementation that *would* always 
automatically use fully-reduced internal representations).

I *do* think Swift is missing a “bit-by-bit/physical" equality operator (for 
which 1/2 and 2/4 would be distinct, here), and Swift should probably get one 
at some point, but that’s IMHO another (but related) discussion.

> But I am not convince that is bad because   that can happen regardless of 
> whether equatable is an opt-in thing or automatic. For example, let's say you 
> opt-in by saying that it implements Equatable or by using the derived / 
> synthesizes keyword that we have mentioned. The developer may not realize 
> until later that the default implementation would be wrong for your 
> fancy/unusual struct.  It is likely that opting in may raise a flag in your 
> brain that says "hey, is the default implementation going to do the right 
> thing? Do you need to customize it for your struct?" But it's not a guarantee 
> either. And if it's not a guarantee then should it be automatic then? Most 
> developer will go with the default implementation when they opt-in and then 
> realize later that they may need to customize when things are not working 
> quite the way the expected. 
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 26, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 26, 2016, at 10:18 AM, T.J. Usiyan via swift-evolution 
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 to a `deriving` keyword
>>>> 
>>>> + 1.  I like it as well.  It makes the feature opt-in, declaring 
>>>> conformance and requesting synthesis at the same time.  The syntactic 
>>>> difference from a simple conformance declaration means manual conformance 
>>>> can still be checked properly with no ambiguity about whether you were 
>>>> requesting synthesis or not.  This approach also generalizes well.
>>>> 
>>>> This bullet makes me uncomfortable though:
>>>> 
>>>>> - It is compatible with generics. E.g. `struct Shape<T> deriving 
>>>>> Equatable` will make every `Shape<X>` equatable if `X` is equatable. But 
>>>>> if `X` is not equatable, `Shape<X>` can be used as well. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You should not be able to just say `struct Shape<T> deriving Equatable`.  
>>>> You should have to do this:
>>>> 
>>>> extension Shape deriving Equatable where T: Equatable {}
>>>> 
>>>> Or some equivalent syntax that makes it clear that you only intend to 
>>>> derive equatable when T meets the stated conditions.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Michael Peternell via swift-evolution 
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> Can we just copy&paste the solution from Haskell instead of creating our 
>>>>> own? It's just better in every aspect. Deriving `Equatable` and 
>>>>> `Hashable` would become
>>>>> 
>>>>> struct Polygon deriving Equatable, Hashable {
>>>>>     ...
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> This has several advantages:
>>>>> - you don't have to guess wether `Equatable` or `Hashable` should be 
>>>>> automatically derived or not.
>>>>> - Deriving becomes an explicit choice.
>>>>> - If you need a custom `Equatable` implementation (for whatever reason), 
>>>>> you can still do it.
>>>>> - It doesn't break any code that is unaware of the change
>>>>> - It can be extended in future versions of Swift, without introducing any 
>>>>> new incompatibilities. For example, `CustomStringConvertible` could be 
>>>>> derived just as easily.
>>>>> - It is compatible with generics. E.g. `struct Shape<T> deriving 
>>>>> Equatable` will make every `Shape<X>` equatable if `X` is equatable. But 
>>>>> if `X` is not equatable, `Shape<X>` can be used as well. (Unless `X` is 
>>>>> not used, in which case every `Shape<T>` would be equatable. Unless 
>>>>> something in the definition of `Shape` makes deriving `Equatable` 
>>>>> impossible => this produces an error.)
>>>>> - It is proven to work in production.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> > Am 26.05.2016 um 03:48 schrieb Mark Sands via swift-evolution 
>>>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks so much for putting this together, Tony! Glad I was able to be 
>>>>> > some inspiration. :^)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Tony Allevato via swift-evolution 
>>>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> > I was inspired to put together a draft proposal based on an older 
>>>>> > discussion in the Universal Equality, Hashability, and Comparability 
>>>>> > thread <http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/8919/ 
>>>>> > <http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.swift.evolution/8919/>> that 
>>>>> > recently got necromanced (thanks Mark Sands!).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm guessing that this would be a significant enough change that it's 
>>>>> > not possible for the Swift 3 timeline, but it's something that would 
>>>>> > benefit enough people that I want to make sure the discussion stays 
>>>>> > alive. If there are enough good feelings about it, I'll move it from my 
>>>>> > gist into an actual proposal PR.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Automatically deriving Equatable andHashable for value types
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       • Proposal: SE-0000
>>>>> >       • Author(s): Tony Allevato
>>>>> >       • Status: Awaiting review
>>>>> >       • Review manager: TBD
>>>>> > Introduction
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Value types are prevalent throughout the Swift language, and we 
>>>>> > encourage developers to think in those terms when writing their own 
>>>>> > types. Frequently, developers find themselves writing large amounts of 
>>>>> > boilerplate code to support equatability and hashability of value 
>>>>> > types. This proposal offers a way for the compiler to automatically 
>>>>> > derive conformance toEquatable and Hashable to reduce this boilerplate, 
>>>>> > in a subset of scenarios where generating the correct implementation is 
>>>>> > likely to be possible.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Swift-evolution thread: Universal Equatability, Hashability, and 
>>>>> > Comparability
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Motivation
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Building robust value types in Swift can involve writing significant 
>>>>> > boilerplate code to support concepts of hashability and equatability. 
>>>>> > Equality is pervasive across many value types, and for each one users 
>>>>> > must implement the == operator such that it performs a fairly rote 
>>>>> > memberwise equality test. As an example, an equality test for a struct 
>>>>> > looks fairly uninteresting:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > func ==(lhs: Foo, rhs: Foo) -> Bool
>>>>> >  {
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return lhs.property1 == rhs.property1 &&
>>>>> >
>>>>> >          lhs
>>>>> > .property2 == rhs.property2 &&
>>>>> >
>>>>> >          lhs
>>>>> > .property3 == rhs.property3 &&
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > }
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What's worse is that this operator must be updated if any properties 
>>>>> > are added, removed, or changed, and since it must be manually written, 
>>>>> > it's possible to get it wrong, either by omission or typographical 
>>>>> > error.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Likewise, hashability is necessary when one wishes to store a value 
>>>>> > type in a Set or use one as a multi-valuedDictionary key. Writing 
>>>>> > high-quality, well-distributed hash functions is not trivial so 
>>>>> > developers may not put a great deal of thought into them – especially 
>>>>> > as the number of properties increases – not realizing that their 
>>>>> > performance could potentially suffer as a result. And as with equality, 
>>>>> > writing it manually means there is the potential to get it wrong.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In particular, the code that must be written to implement equality for 
>>>>> > enums is quite verbose. One such real-world example (source):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > func ==(lhs: HandRank, rhs: HandRank) -> Bool
>>>>> >  {
>>>>> >
>>>>> > switch
>>>>> >  (lhs, rhs) {
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case (.straightFlush(let lRank, let lSuit), .straightFlush(let rRank , 
>>>>> > let
>>>>> >  rSuit)):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return lRank == rRank && lSuit ==
>>>>> >  rSuit
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case (.fourOfAKind(four: let lFour), .fourOfAKind(four: let
>>>>> >  rFour)):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return lFour ==
>>>>> >  rFour
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case (.fullHouse(three: let lThree), .fullHouse(three: let
>>>>> >  rThree)):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return lThree ==
>>>>> >  rThree
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case (.flush(let lRank, let lSuit), .flush(let rRank, let
>>>>> >  rSuit)):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return lSuit == rSuit && lRank ==
>>>>> >  rRank
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case (.straight(high: let lRank), .straight(high: let
>>>>> >  rRank)):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return lRank ==
>>>>> >  rRank
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case (.threeOfAKind(three: let lRank), .threeOfAKind(three: let
>>>>> >  rRank)):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return lRank ==
>>>>> >  rRank
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case (.twoPair(high: let lHigh, low: let lLow, highCard: let
>>>>> >  lCard),
>>>>> >
>>>>> > .twoPair(high: let rHigh, low: let rLow, highCard: let
>>>>> >  rCard)):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return lHigh == rHigh && lLow == rLow && lCard ==
>>>>> >  rCard
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case (.onePair(let lPairRank, card1: let lCard1, card2: let lCard2, 
>>>>> > card3: let
>>>>> >  lCard3),
>>>>> >
>>>>> > .onePair(let rPairRank, card1: let rCard1, card2: let rCard2, card3: let
>>>>> >  rCard3)):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return lPairRank == rPairRank && lCard1 == rCard1 && lCard2 == rCard2 
>>>>> > && lCard3 ==
>>>>> >  rCard3
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case (.highCard(let lCard), .highCard(let
>>>>> >  rCard)):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return lCard ==
>>>>> >  rCard
>>>>> >
>>>>> > default
>>>>> > :
>>>>> >
>>>>> > return false
>>>>> >
>>>>> >   }
>>>>> > }
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Crafting a high-quality hash function for this enum would be similarly 
>>>>> > inconvenient to write, involving another large switchstatement.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Swift already provides implicit protocol conformance in some cases; 
>>>>> > notably, enums with raw values conform toRawRepresentable, Equatable, 
>>>>> > and Hashable without the user explicitly declaring them:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > enum Foo: Int
>>>>> >  {
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case one = 1
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > case two = 2
>>>>> >
>>>>> > }
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > let x = (Foo.one == Foo.two)  // works
>>>>> > let y = Foo.one.hashValue     // also works
>>>>> > let z = Foo.one.rawValue      // also also works
>>>>> > Since there is precedent for this in Swift, we propose extending this 
>>>>> > support to more value types.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Proposed solution
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We propose that a value type be Equatable/Hashable if all of its 
>>>>> > members are Equatable/Hashable, with the result for the outer type 
>>>>> > being composed from its members.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Specifically, we propose the following rules for deriving Equatable:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       • A struct implicitly conforms to Equatable if all of its fields 
>>>>> > are of types that conform to Equatable – either explicitly, or 
>>>>> > implicitly by the application of these rules. The compiler will 
>>>>> > generate an implementation of ==(lhs: T, rhs: T)that returns true if 
>>>>> > and only if lhs.x == rhs.x for all fields x in T.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       • An enum implicitly conforms to Equatable if all of its 
>>>>> > associated values across all of its cases are of types that conform to 
>>>>> > Equatable – either explicitly, or implicitly by the application of 
>>>>> > these rules. The compiler will generate an implementation of ==(lhs: T, 
>>>>> > rhs: T) that returns true if and only if lhs and rhs are the same case 
>>>>> > and have payloads that are memberwise-equal.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Likewise, we propose the following rules for deriving Hashable:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       • A struct implicitly conforms to Hashable if all of its fields 
>>>>> > are of types that conform to Hashable – either explicitly, or 
>>>>> > implicitly by the application of these rules. The compiler will 
>>>>> > generate an implementation of hashValue that uses a pre-defined hash 
>>>>> > function† to compute the hash value of the struct from the hash values 
>>>>> > of its members.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Since order of the terms affects the hash value computation, we 
>>>>> > recommend ordering the terms in member definition order.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       • An enum implicitly conforms to Hashable if all of its 
>>>>> > associated values across all of its cases are of types that conform to 
>>>>> > Hashable – either explicitly, or implicitly by the application of these 
>>>>> > rules. The compiler will generate an implementation of hashValue that 
>>>>> > uses a pre-defined hash function† to compute the hash value of an enum 
>>>>> > value by using the case's ordinal (i.e., definition order) followed by 
>>>>> > the hash values of its associated values as its terms, also in 
>>>>> > definition order.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > † We leave the exact definition of the hash function unspecified here; 
>>>>> > a multiplicative hash function such as Kernighan and Ritchie or 
>>>>> > Bernstein is easy to implement, but we do not rule out other 
>>>>> > possibilities.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Overriding defaults
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Any user-provided implementations of == or hashValue should override 
>>>>> > the default implementations that would be provided by the compiler. 
>>>>> > This is already possible today with raw-value enums so the same 
>>>>> > behavior should be extended to other value types that are made to 
>>>>> > implicitly conform to these protocols.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Open questions
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Omission of fields from generated computations
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Should it be possible to easily omit certain properties from 
>>>>> > automatically generated equality tests or hash value computation? This 
>>>>> > could be valuable, for example, if a property is merely used as an 
>>>>> > internal cache and does not actually contribute to the "value" of the 
>>>>> > instance. Under the rules above, if this cached value was equatable, a 
>>>>> > user would have to override == and hashValue and provide their own 
>>>>> > implementations to ignore it. If there is significant evidence that 
>>>>> > this pattern is common and useful, we could consider adding a custom 
>>>>> > attribute, such as @transient, that would omit the property from the 
>>>>> > generated computations.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Explicit or implicit derivation
>>>>> >
>>>>> > As with raw-value enums today, should the derived conformance be 
>>>>> > completely explicit, or should users have to explicitly list 
>>>>> > conformance with Equatable and Hashable in order for the compiler to 
>>>>> > generate the derived implementation?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Impact on existing code
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This change will have no impact on existing code because it is purely 
>>>>> > additive. Value types that already provide custom implementations of == 
>>>>> > or hashValue but satisfy the rules above would keep the custom 
>>>>> > implementation because it would override the compiler-provided default.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Alternatives considered
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The original discussion thread also included Comparable as a candidate 
>>>>> > for automatic generation. Unlike equatability and hashability, however, 
>>>>> > comparability requires an ordering among the members being compared. 
>>>>> > Automatically using the definition order here might be too surprising 
>>>>> > for users, but worse, it also means that reordering properties in the 
>>>>> > source code changes the code's behavior at runtime. (This is true for 
>>>>> > hashability as well if a multiplicative hash function is used, but hash 
>>>>> > values are not intended to be persistent and reordering the terms does 
>>>>> > not produce a significant behavioral change.)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Acknowledgments
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks to Joe Groff for spinning off the original discussion thread, 
>>>>> > Jose Cheyo Jimenez for providing great real-world examples of 
>>>>> > boilerplate needed to support equatability for some value types, and to 
>>>>> > Mark Sands for necromancing the swift-evolution thread that convinced 
>>>>> > me to write this up.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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