On Jun 5, 2016, at 8:24 PM, T.J. Usiyan via swift-evolution 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Sub typing is the answer that we're going with then?

Most likely.  At this point, we’re not really accepting additive changes to 
Swift 3 anyway, so any proposal would need to wait until post-swift 3 in any 
case.  

Plans for releases beyond Swift 3 haven’t been made yet - the metaplan is to 
come up with a plan in ~August timeframe.

-Chris


> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 4:26 PM, T.J. Usiyan <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> It could be a more general solution. I am unclear about what 'subtype 
> relationships' means here though.
> 
> Are you talking a about what you allude to here? 
> https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20151130/000525.html
>  
> <https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20151130/000525.html>
>  
> 
> The benefit of explicitly narrowing, in my opinion, is that there is no 
> unnecessary cost to figuring out lookup. (Please correct me if I am 
> mistaken.) Implicit promotions introduce uncertainty with regard to what a 
> value is being treated as in any given moment. This uncertainty is worth it 
> in many cases but I will suggest that it is not worth it when trying to deal 
> with a narrower set of cases from an already established set. For example, in 
> the graph/lattice situation, conversions must be written because there is no 
> reasonable conversion that can be assumed. In this proposal, the conversion 
> is obvious and trivial because the relationship is completely clear.
> 
> All of that said, I *am* unclear about what subtype relationships means so it 
> may very well be a better solution. It certainly sounds like a more general 
> solution but I am not convinced that that is an advantage when trying to deal 
> with a strict subset.
> 
> TJ
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Chris Lattner <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 2:35 PM, T.J. Usiyan via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Since this seems to have some interest, I've made a gist.
>> 
>> https://gist.github.com/griotspeak/963bc87a0c244c120264b11fb022d78c 
>> <https://gist.github.com/griotspeak/963bc87a0c244c120264b11fb022d78c>
> We have frequently discussed introducing subtype relationships between 
> structs and enums, in an effort to allow limited implicit promotions (e.g. 
> from small integers to wider integers).  Wouldn’t that be a more general 
> solution to this same problem?
> 
> -Chris
> 
> 
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