> On Jun 25, 2016, at 12:00 AM, L. Mihalkovic <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Inline
> Regards
> (From mobile)
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Joe Groff via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Jordan Rose via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> [Proposal: 
>>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0095-any-as-existential.md
>>>  ]
>>> 
>>> I’ve gone on record before as against this syntax, although when I set out 
>>> earlier today to record my usual rebuttal I found that it really was mostly 
>>> a matter of taste. Yes, this looks weird to me:
>>> 
>>> let callback: (Data) -> NSCoding & NSCopying
>>> 
>>> but I’m sure the infix ‘->’ for functions looked weird to everyone the 
>>> first time they saw it as well, and it really is pretty clear in argument 
>>> position.
>> 
>> We could conceivably bracket the 'where' constraints somewhere. It's nice 
>> not to have to punish the common case syntax. In my personal ideal vision of 
>> the world, I'd like to see us support opening existentials via 
>> path-dependent types (e.g., let a: Collection; let element: a.Element). If 
>> we support them in decl-level 'where' clauses, we provide a nice, clean 
>> syntax for complex generic relationships that doesn't require angle brackets 
>> or per-existential where clauses at all, something like:
>> 
>>   func intersect(a: Collection, b: Collection) -> Collection
>>       where a.Element == b.Element, b.Element == return.Element {
>>   }
>> 
>> which doesn't completely define away the need for 'where' as part of 
>> existential types, but would shrink it quite a bit.
> 
> For some reason it had not clicked until your 'path dependent type' reference 
> how reminicent of (U+00B7) this is. I watched nada's 2014 presentation 
> again... but then it means intersection types would add a lot... you guys 
> seem ok to add P&Q now, so why not take that opportunity to allow P|Q at the 
> same time. Does it also mean that you might consider at some point expanding 
> 'assoctype U'  into:  T where <:U , :>U  opening the door to lower/higher 
> type bounds?

Let's not rathole on the P|Q thing. Disjunctions are difficult to make much 
sense of in a parametric type system like ours; there are plenty of other 
threads on this mailing list discussing it.

-Joe
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