> On 7 Jul 2016, at 19:10, Karl <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 17:19, Tim Vermeulen <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 16:57, Karl <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 07:50, Tim Vermeulen via swift-evolution 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This is a follow up from this swift-users thread: 
>>>> https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-users/Week-of-Mon-20160704/002489.html
>>>>  
>>>> <https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-users/Week-of-Mon-20160704/002489.html>
>>>> 
>>>> As it stands, RangeReplaceableCollection requires an implementation for 
>>>> init(), which is used in the default implementations of (as far as I can 
>>>> tell) init(_:), init(repeating:count:) and removeAll(keepingCapacity:). 
>>>> The latter of these methods should be implementable with 
>>>> removeSubrange(_:) instead.
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to propose to *remove* all three initialisers from this 
>>>> protocol, because it makes it impossible for some collections to conform 
>>>> to it that need extra data for its initialisation, but are otherwise 
>>>> perfectly capable of having arbitrary subranges replaced by elements from 
>>>> another collection. Those three initialisers could either move to a new 
>>>> protocol or simply not be part of any protocol.
>>>> 
>>>> On a similar note, I’d like to have all initialisers of SetAlgebra removed 
>>>> as well, but that might need its own review.
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>>> 
>>> I believe the idea of RRC is that all you need to implement is the empty 
>>> initialiser and replaceSubrange(), and everything else (e.g. Append, 
>>> insert) is implemented in terms of those.
>> 
>> Right, but as it turns out, the empty initialiser is used in barely any of 
>> them.
>> 
>>> Even the initialiser which takes existing collection just initialises and 
>>> empty one and appends the existing collection (I.e. Calling 
>>> replaceSubrange).
>>> 
>>> If I understand you correctly, it will not be possible to initialise a 
>>> generic RRC any more, will it? Because that RRC may need additional 
>>> information (e.g. A maximum buffer size if it stores its data in multiple 
>>> discrete buffers) which you can’t provide generically.
>> 
>> Correct. I haven’t come up with a use for initialising a generic RRC 
>> anyways, mostly because I think there are RRCs for which an empty init 
>> wouldn’t make any sense.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe we could have a true copy-constructor instead? That is, replace 
>>> init<C:Collection>(_:) with init(_: Self), so that it could take any 
>>> additional arguments from that other instance?
>> 
>> This is certainly an improvement over init(), but what would it be used for 
>> with regards to this particular protocol? It might certainly be useful, but 
>> the empty initialiser can be useful as well; it’s just a matter of how 
>> relevant that method is to this protocol. Wouldn’t a copy constructor make 
>> more sense in the more general Collection protocol?
>> 
>>> 
>>> Karl
> 
> I have a use-case: I have a struct which wraps a RangeReplaceableCollection 
> and allows you to tag ranges of indices with random objects (it’s actually 
> pretty cool, it can automatically merge adjacent ranges of Equatables — sort 
> of like a pure-Swift NSAttributedString). It needs to create a new collection 
> (currently via the initialiser, but a copy-constructor would also be fine), 
> because it needs to own the indexes for mutability guarantees.
> 
> Karl


What I mean by that is that the wrapper needs to make sure that you never 
mutate the collection it references outside of its own replaceSubrange. 
Otherwise the parallel collection of tagged indexes would go out-of-sync.

Karl
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