* What is your evaluation of the proposal?

Strong +1. I believe supporting public inheritance is the single most complicated thing in modern API design; thus, allowing inheritance to happen without explicit approval of the API designer is clearly a bad idea.

I'm OK with the proposed keywords (subclassable/overridable), but I like "open" even more. I think "base class"/"base func" or "super class"/"super func" would also read well.

* Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?

Yes. This proposal helps third-party API writers avoid a major source of pitfalls.

        * Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?

Absolutely. Having sensible/safe defaults for such toggles feels like a major feature in Swift.

* If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?

Java is a huge poster child for object oriented programming, which is often misunderstood to be primarily about inheritance. Still, collections of Java best practices invariably include strongly worded advice for preferring composition over inheritance, and I especially like the following rule:

        Design and document for inheritance or else prohibit it.
                        -- Joshua Bloch: Effective Java. Addison-Wesley, 2001.

Even in Java, it is a bad idea to leave classes subclassable; but having to remember to add final is a chore.

SE-0117 takes this a step further by allowing package writers to use inheritance internally when it makes sense, without also having to take on the complications arising from allowing third-party inheritance -- such as having to write a reasonably complete unit test suite for superclass-subclass interactions. This is an interesting improvement over final-by-default (which I'd also support).

* How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?

I carefully read it, drank a cup of my favorite beverage to celebrate its existence, then I collected my thoughts.

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On 2016-07-05 23:11:17 +0000, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution said:

Hello Swift community,

The review of "SE-0117: Default classes to be non-subclassable publicly" begins now and runs through July 11. The proposal is available here:

https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0117-non-public-subclassable-by-default.md

Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. All reviews should be sent to the swift-evolution mailing list at

        https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution

or, if you would like to keep your feedback private, directly to the review manager.

What goes into a review?

The goal of the review process is to improve the proposal under review through constructive criticism and contribute to the direction of Swift. When writing your review, here are some questions you might want to answer in your review:

        * What is your evaluation of the proposal?
* Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?
        * Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?
* If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those? * How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?

More information about the Swift evolution process is available at

        https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md

Thank you,

-Chris Lattner
Review Manager

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