On 22.07.2016 19:25, Duan wrote:
The current syntax establishes a relationship.

  X: Y

means "X will have interface of Y". Note there's no mention of inheritance or 
protocol here: they both establish this relationship. This is why we can use

  z is Y

To check whether such relationship holds. Again, there's no need to worry 
whether Y is a class or protocol.

But we see that some mature languages like Java, C# and C++, Object Pascal has this distinction: Java with 'implements' keyword, C# with 'I' prefix for interfaces(their protocols), C++ with both `implements` and 'I' prefix conversion, Object Pascal with 'I' prefix. I.e. I believe that in any case new syntax will establish a relationship, but more clearly distinct inheritance with conformance to help the reader to understand the composition of the reviewed class code.


That being said, I agree that user have to look up Y's declaration to determine which one 
they are writing/reading. But is that a real issue? Why would you write/use "class 
X: Y {}" before knowing what Y is?

The problem arises not when you write/use but when you *read* someone's code, and sometimes you read that code not in XCode/IDE.



Daniel Duan
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On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Vladimir.S via swift-evolution 
<[email protected]> wrote:

I remember that this was discussed, but can't find any decision regarding 
this.. So, as a last chance, don't we want in Swift 3.0, as big source breaking 
change, separate class inheritance and protocol conformance in syntax?

Sorry if there was a decision about this suggestions. Please let know in this 
case.

I.e. when I see the following I can't understand if the class inherits from 
base class and conforms to protocols or just conforms to two protocols:

class MyClass : First, Second, Third {
}

We don't have a rule to name protocols with 'Protocol'/other suffix/prefix, or 
classes with 'T'/'C' prefix or something like this, so I believe to improve the 
clarity of code we should separate in syntax inheritance and conformance.

As I understand we should discuss changes in these areas:

1. class inheritance :
class Child: BaseClass

2. class conformance :
class Child: SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2

3. class inheritance + conformance :
class Child: BaseClass, SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2

4. protocol conformance for structs:
struct Struct: SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2

5. protocol inheritance:
protocol Child: BaseProtocol1, BaseProtocol2


My suggestions:

I) separate inheritance with double colon :

1. class inheritance :
class Child:: BaseClass

2. class conformance :
class Child: SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2

3. class inheritance + conformance :
class Child:: BaseClass : SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2

4. protocol conformance for structs:
struct Struct: SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2

5. protocol inheritance:
protocol Child:: BaseProtocol1, BaseProtocol2


II) in class definition use parenthesis to separate inheritance and conformance 
:

1. class inheritance :
class Child: BaseClass

2. class conformance :
class Child: (SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2)

3. class inheritance + conformance :
class Child: BaseClass (SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2)

4. protocol conformance for structs:
struct Struct: SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2
or
struct Struct: (SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2)
should be discussed

5. protocol inheritance:
protocol Child: BaseProtocol1, BaseProtocol2


III) special word like 'conforms'

1. class inheritance :
class Child: BaseClass

2. class conformance :
class Child: conforms SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2
or
class Child conforms SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2

3. class inheritance + conformance :
class Child: BaseClass conforms SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2

4. protocol conformance for structs:
struct Struct: conforms SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2
or
struct Struct conforms SomeProtocol1, SomeProtocol2

5. protocol inheritance:
protocol Child: BaseProtocol1, BaseProtocol2


Thoughts?
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