Chris, has the core team discussed opening up a forum for discussing proposal implementations.
Some of us aren't as skilled as the core team or other contributors but would like to learn. A forum is a much easier place for us to post for code help and to help others with their questions. I think this could help get more involved as it would be a more comfortable format for them. Think of how there are Apple Developer forums and not mailing lists for iOS betas etc. I am not saying moving swift-evo to forums *yet* but I believe a lot of the newer programmers are more comfortable with a forum format, especially when it comes to help and discussing code. Forums for contributors would: - be more familiar for a lot of the newer and not as experienced developers - be easier to search - be easier to moderate (not really a problem yet) My .02 Brandon > On Jul 29, 2016, at 7:43 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Jul 29, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Erica Sadun <[email protected]> wrote: >> Things I'd like to see: >> >> * On the Swift Evolution repository site, a wish list from core engineers, >> with a précis for each topic, a priority estimate, and contact information >> for the team (which can be none through "willing to mentor"). Using a >> central document is key. Placing requests on-list means they get lost within >> a day or two and cannot be updated in one place. > > I expect/hope each of the topics listed in the email to turn into active > threads of discussion. If you or others have questions about them, feel free > to ask now. That said, major design work on them probably won’t kick off in > earnest until Swift 3 is closer to being out the door. > >> * At the same time, I'd like to see regular posted updates on-list >> (announcement, or evolution) about the bigger picture goals: for example, >> neglected items that need some contributor love > > Makes sense. > >> * A way to submit pitches for early design review intervention on a regular >> calendar, so pitches without legs get cut off early and mercifully, and >> traffic is reduced. > > I’m not sure what you mean by this. > >> * A deferred proposals folder where people can place low-priority (for >> example, "sugar") items, to clear them from their heads, from the pull >> queue. Add in some structure for discussion, whether on a separate swift.org >> pipermail list, on github, or on-list using a well-specified tag that can be >> filtered out for those who need more on-topic bandwidth. > > The core team discussed this and specifically does not want to do this. The > proposal template will change year over year, as will the goals for the > releases. There are plenty of places to post speculative ideas (blogs, > personal github repos, etc). Hosting them as an official part of the swift > project doesn’t seem productive unless they are blessed, filtered, or somehow > endorsed. > >> * Swift-academy outreach for those of us who can code but fall somewhere >> between starter bugs and full contribution. > > I’m also not sure what you mean by this, but it sounds interesting! > > -Chris > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution _______________________________________________ swift-evolution mailing list [email protected] https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
