Does ZenHub have something that even remotely looks like a forum? I can’t find anything like that on their website. Or is your suggestion that we move all of swift-evo directly to GitHub?
> I'm open to ZenHub that can be integrate as part of GitHub for discussion, > pull changes and it makes it easier to reference to the patches within ZenHub > than from Discourse or other forums. Swiftly right? > > https://www.zenhub.com > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Tim Vermeulen via > swift-evolution<[email protected](mailto:[email protected])>wrote: > > +1. Hirundo makes this format bearable, but it is still far from ideal. I > > see many advantages for using Discourse: > > > > - It has actual syntax highlighting. > > - It’s easier to moderate. > > - It supports real-time updates. > > - It’s easier to follow the flow of a conversation. > > - It has better search. > > > > I don’t doubt more people will take part in the Swift evolution process if > > we switch to Discourse. > > > > >Branching... > > > > > >On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Chris Lattner via > > >swift-evolution<[email protected](mailto:[email protected])(mailto:[email protected])>wrote: > > >>On Jul 29, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Brandon > > >>Knope<[email protected](mailto:[email protected])(mailto:[email protected])>wrote: > > >>> > > >>>Chris, has the core team discussed opening up a forum for discussing > > >>>proposal implementations. > > >>> > > >>>Some of us aren't as skilled as the core team or other contributors but > > >>>would like to learn. A forum is a much easier place for us to post for > > >>>code help and to help others with their questions. I think this could > > >>>help get more involved as it would be a more comfortable format for > > >>>them. Think of how there are Apple Developer forums and not mailing > > >>>lists for iOS betas etc. > > >>> > > >>>I am not saying moving swift-evo to forums *yet* but I believe a lot of > > >>>the newer programmers are more comfortable with a forum format, > > >>>especially when it comes to help and discussing code. > > >>> > > >>>Forums for contributors would: > > >>>- be more familiar for a lot of the newer and not as experienced > > >>>developers > > >>>- be easier to search > > >>>- be easier to moderate (not really a problem yet) > > >> > > >>Hi Brandon, > > >> > > >>Moving from email to a forum system has come up before, but they have > > >>some disadvantages.One of major wins of email is that it is pervasive and > > >>can be adapted into other forms.For example, if you haven’t seen it yet, > > >>check out: > > >>https://stylemac.com/hirundo/ > > >> > > >>-Chris > > >> > > >We've discussed forums on swift-evolution before. Maybe it's time for > > >another go, with Swift 3 winding down. > > > > > >For context, prior discussions are on this > > >thread:https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20151207/001537.html > > > > > >(-1 for mailman: it's hard for me to even properly find&link to all the > > >prior discussion about mailing lists, because of how mailman's archive > > >works...) > > > > > > > > >News in the last few days is that Gmane is at least temporarily > > >disappearing:https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/comment-page-1/#comment-13502 > > > > > > > > >I'd just like to vote once again > > >forDiscourse(http://www.discourse.org/faq/#what):-Excellentweb > > >interface(https://meta.discourse.org/), from the people who brought you > > >Stack Overflow(built-in search, etc.) > > >- Read via email if that's your thing: it has "mailing list mode" which > > >includes 1-email-per-post, if that's your cup of tea > > >-Reply via > > >email(https://meta.discourse.org/t/replacing-mailing-lists-email-in/13099)ifthat's > > > your thing > > >- It'sopen source(https://github.com/discourse/discourse)itself > > >- I believe it has ways of getting content as JSON and/or RSS, so I'd > > >hardly say "can be adapted into other forms" is an exclusive feature of > > >email. > > > > > >And, Discourse providesfree hosting for community-friendly open-source > > >projects(http://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum-hosting-for-community-friendly-github-projects/). > > > Istrongly > > >suspect(https://twitter.com/jtbandes/status/705886542309363712)Swiftwould > > >qualify for this. > > > > > > > > >There have been several people on this list arguing in favor of mailing > > >lists — I encourage folks to go read the old thread for themselves. > > > > > >It's worth noting there are also plenty of voices that don't get heard on > > >this list, because people just don't like using mailing lists. One > > >example:https://twitter.com/pilky/status/755105431555608580_______________________________________________ > > >swift-evolution mailing list > > >[email protected](mailto:[email protected]) > > >https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swift-evolution mailing list > > [email protected](mailto:[email protected]) > > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > > > _______________________________________________ swift-evolution mailing list [email protected] https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
