(+swift-build-dev, which is more focused for SwiftPM work)

Hi Said,

I agree, this is something we need.

One of the things that a complete proposal for adding this needs is a precise 
definition for the workflow and exploration about the impact on other features. 
Some of my questions are:

1. When will those commits be resolved and packages updated? For example, we 
might find it useful for `swift build` to automatically fetch packages and 
prompt when new versions are available when using tagged dependencies -- is 
that behavior appropriate when tracking a branch?

2. How do we manage the presence of these attributes w.r.t. producing reliable 
package graphs. For example, should this be allowed in all circumstances, or 
should it only be allowed when accessing a package via an "untagged" path? If I 
depend on B, and B updates and pushes a tag to start referencing a branch, do I 
see an error, or a warning, to let me know my product is no longer being built 
from tagged repositories?

3. We anticipate needing an explicit workflow for development against an 
untagged group of packages (we've been colloquially calling this "master"-style 
development). If we had that feature, which let you just use a bunch of 
packages in whatever state they were in on the local filesystem, would that 
change how you felt about wanting this in the `Package.swift` manifest?

I am in favor of getting a complete proposal for this feature on the books, and 
agree with you that implementing it should be relatively easy. The proposal 
doesn't have to be elaborate, but I think it does need to work through some of 
the impact of this feature and ways we can mitigate potential problems.

Cheers,
 - Daniel

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Daniel Leping via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> +1 here. It becomes much more crucial when you work with finely grained 
> projects with each module in its own repo. Making a new release when you push 
> a fix becomes too much of job to do.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Said Sikira via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Yes, I agree that tags are far better option for production use, but 
> development process stage would certainly benefit from possibility to track 
> specific branch or commit. Having to rely completely on versioned tags in 
> development stage would not be easy nor very productive.
> 
> Said
> 
> On September 6, 2016 at 3:49:06 PM, Guillaume DIDIER 
> ([email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>) wrote:
> 
>> I think that the ability to fetch a branch or a commit may be interesting
>> (basically anything that git understands), would be nice,
>> but with the caveat that for production use it is far better to use à fixed 
>> version (i.e. a tag).
>> We do not want that most packages are used by specifying the master branch.
>> 
>> 
>> Guillaume DIDIER 
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>> 
>>> Le 6 sept. 2016 à 15:41, Said Sikira via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Our code is almost always developed and pushed in small incremental 
>>> changes. When we implement critical amount of changes in our code, we push 
>>> new version.
>>> 
>>> When adding dependencies to Package.swift file, we supply their repository 
>>> url and version we want to use. However, differentiating code only by it’s 
>>> version is not enough in some cases. When writing new code features, we use 
>>> branches. They enable all the mechanisms one needs to create, test and 
>>> deploy new features without polluting production environment.
>>> 
>>> I think that Swift Package Manager should have support for branches (and 
>>> commits). There are several reasons why this feature would greatly improve 
>>> developer workflow:
>>> 
>>> Writing new features. Being able to specify branch in Package.swift would 
>>> make creating and testing new features easier. You wouldn’t need to push 
>>> new version to be able to use it in your Swift program. You would just 
>>> specify the branch you’re working on.
>>> Differentiating between new Swift versions. This problem comes from the 
>>> current Swift 2.2 -> Swift 3.0 migration. Many framework developers use 
>>> specific branches (swift–3, swift3.0) to work on migration of their API’s 
>>> to Swift 3. However, you can’t use them in your Swift projects because they 
>>> don’t live in the master branch in the repository. I’m sure this will also 
>>> happen when Swift 3 starts migration to the Swift 4, until ABI becomes 
>>> stable.
>>> SPM should also have support for specifying commits. Specifying which 
>>> commit you want to use in your project dependency is not always a good 
>>> idea, but it’s necessary in some cases.
>>> 
>>> This shouldn’t be very hard to implement. We would need to update 
>>> PackageDescription and Get source from swift-package-manager repository to 
>>> enable specifying branches or commits. Pulling the branch source would just 
>>> be another parameter in git instruction.
>>> 
>>> Example:
>>> 
>>> // Specifying branch
>>> let package = Package(
>>>   name: "SomePackage",
>>>   dependencies: [
>>>     .Package(url: "https://repo-source.git <https://repo-source.git/>", 
>>> branch: "new-feature")
>>>   ]
>>> )
>>> // Specifying commits
>>> let package = Package(
>>>   name: "SomePackage",
>>>   dependencies: [
>>>     .Package(url: "https://repo-source.git <https://repo-source.git/>", 
>>> commit: "c336664020v4f94ed78cbe7447a39ae5ca0b6c11")
>>>   ]
>>> )
>>> What are your thoughts on this subject?
>>> 
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