> On Sep 10, 2016, at 1:20 AM, Fabian Ehrentraud via swift-evolution
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'd make the warning an error by default
Swift 3.0 has already shipped without this warning, so making it an error by
default would break source compatibility.
- Doug
>
> Am 09.09.2016 um 16:09 schrieb Fabian Ehrentraud via swift-evolution
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>
>> • What is your evaluation of the proposal?
>>
>> In favor, as we already ran into crashes after migrating our project to
>> Swift 3.
>> I'm not completely convinced though that the compiler should ignore
>> nullabiliy markup on id. Also id has a long tradition in the ObjC community
>> to be used instead of NSObject * which does not suffer from the problem.
>>
>> • Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to
>> Swift?
>>
>> Very much, the compiler should do everything it can to avoid runtime crashes
>> due to programmer errors.
>>
>> • Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?
>>
>> Yes, more intelligent and useful bridging makes sense. NSNull can be
>> problematic too, but having an Optional.some value definitely should work on
>> the other side of the bridge too.
>>
>> • If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how
>> do you feel that this proposal compares to those?
>>
>> -
>>
>> • How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading,
>> or an in-depth study?
>>
>> I even filed a Swift bug (SR-2601) before I found this proposal explaining
>> that nullability on id is ignored since SE-0116.
>>
>> - Fabian
>>
>>
>>> On 03.09.2016, at 00:50, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Swift community,
>>>
>>> The review of SE-0140 "Bridge Optional As Its Payload Or NSNull" begins now
>>> and runs through September 8, 2016. The proposal is available here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0140-bridge-optional-to-nsnull.md
>>>
>>> <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0140-bridge-optional-to-nsnull.md>
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