I think I like the explicitness of a required <> as well. (It reminds me of 
Java, where you can leave out the parameter when the type is known.)

I am however not sure if we could add this without breaking current valid Swift 
3 syntax. The following three statements are correct in Swift 3:

        let one = X<Int>()
        let two: X = X<Int>()
        let three: X<Int> = X()

Only the following one is (obviously) incorrect:

        let four: X = X()

If we would require empty brackets, even if the type can be inferred, I could 
see example three stop working.

> On 23 Jan 2017, at 19:41, Trent Nadeau via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The proposal looks good to me with one possible concern. I'm leaning toward 
> types that use the defaults should still require the angle brackets, X<>. 
> This makes it clear that you're using a generic type. That leads me to think 
> that the examples Doug gave should be an error as the explicit types on the 
> `let`s should either be omitted completely or fully specified (as X<>, 
> X<Double>, X<Int>, etc.).
> 
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Joe Groff via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2017, at 7:55 AM, Srđan Rašić via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've opened a PR (https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/pull/591 
>>> <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/pull/591>) proposing default 
>>> generic arguments which I think would be nice addition to the language. 
>>> They are also mentioned in "Generic manifesto". 
>>> 
>>> The proposal is focusing around generic types. Generic functions are not 
>>> coved by the proposal and I don't think that we need default generic 
>>> arguments in generic functions as all the types are always part of the 
>>> function signature so the compiler can always infer them. One corner case 
>>> might be if using default argument values in which case support for default 
>>> generic arguments in functions might be useful.
>> 
>> The proposal looks fairly straightforward and reasonable. One thing to think 
>> about is how it interacts with type inference. For example, consider these 
>> examples:
>> 
>>      struct X<T = Int> { }
>> 
>>      func f1() -> X<Double> { return X() }
>> 
>>      func f2() -> X<Int> { return X() }
>>      func f2() -> X<Double> { return X() }
>> 
>>      func f3<T>(_: T) -> X<T> { return X() }
>> 
>>      let x1: X = f1()   // okay: x1 has type X<Double>?
>>      let x2: X = f2()   // ambiguous?
>>      let x3a: X = f3(1.5)   // okay: x3a has type X<Double>?
>>      let x3b: X = f3(1)   // okay: x3a has type X<Int>?
>> 
>> The type checker already has some notion of “if you can’t infer a particular 
>> type, fill in a default” that is used for literals. That rule could be used 
>> here… or we could do something else. This should be discussed in the 
>> proposal.
>> 
>> Thanks for working on this!
> 
> There's an interesting parallel to the default behavior of literals. The type 
> of a number or string literal is inferred from type context, or falls back to 
> a default type like Int or String if that doesn't come up with an answer. You 
> could think of that of saying the 'Self' type of the protocol constraint has 
> a default (and maybe that's how we'd generalize the "default type for a 
> protocol" feature if we wanted to.) It makes sense to me to follow a similar 
> model for generic parameter defaults; that way, there's one consistent rule 
> that applies.
> 
> -Joe
> 
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