I admit that I have not followed all of this discussion, but as far as I see, 
we could equally well do this by calling “not-open” enum’s “final”.
It seems like a better fit to me.

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Rien

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> On 11 Feb 2017, at 14:07, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Feb 11, 2017, at 4:25 AM, Adrian Zubarev via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I’m probably better describing things with some bikeshedding code, but feel 
>> free to criticize it as much as you’d like.
>> 
>> //===========--------- Module A ---------===========//
>> @closed public enum A {
>>     case a
>> }
>> 
>> extension A {
>>     case aa // error, because enum is closed
>> }
>> 
> This is an error because you can't add cases in an extension.  I imagine this 
> is how cases would be added outside the module if we allow `open enum` in the 
> future.  But whether or not this is allowed *within* the module is a separate 
> question that is orthogonal to `closed` and `open`.
> 
> 
>> 
>> public func foo(a: A) {
>>     switch a {
>>     case .a:
>>         print("done")
>>     }
>> }
>> 
>> public enum B {
>>     case b
>> }
>> 
>> extension B {
>>     case bb // fine, because not-closed enums are extensible
>> }
>> 
> As noted above, whether this is allowed or not *within* the module is 
> orthogonal to `closed`.  *Outside* the module it would only be possible for 
> enum declared `open` (if we add this feature in the future).
> 
>> 
>> public func bar(b: B) {
>>     switch b {
>>     case .b:
>>         print("b")
>> 
>>     default: // always needed
>>         print("some other case")
>>     }
>> }
>> 
>> // Sub-enum relationships
>> 
>> // Possible even the enum A is closed, because `@closed` only  
>> // closes the extensibility of an enum
>> enum SubA : A {
>>     case aa
>> }
>> 
>> 
> Now you're talking about value subtypes.  That is orthogonal.  Also, this 
> syntax already has a meaning (the raw value of the enum is A) so we wouldn't 
> be able to use it the way you are intending here.  Finally, it is misleading 
> syntax because what you mean here is "A is a subtype of SubA" which is 
> exactly the opposite of what the syntax implies.
> 
> All values of A are valid values of SubA, but SubA has values that are not 
> valid values of A.
> 
>> // The following enum can have a sub-enum in the clients module
>> open enum C {
>>     case c
>> }
>> 
>> public func cool(c: C) {
>>     switch c {
>>     case .c:
>>         print("c")
>> 
>>     default: // always needed
>>         print("some other case")
>>     }
>> }
>> 
>> @closed open enum D {
>>     case d
>> }
>> 
>> public func doo(d: D) {
>>     switch b {
>>     case .b:
>>         print("b")
>>     }
>> }
>> 
>> // The enum case is always known at any point, no matter  
>> // where the instance comes from, right?
>> 
>> let subA = SubA.aa
>> let otherSubA = SubA.a // Inherited case
>> 
>> let a: A = subA        // error, downgrade the sub-enum to A first
>> let a: A = otherSubA   // okay
>> 
>> foo(a: subA)           // error, downgrade the sub-enum to A first
>> foo(a: otherSubA)      // okay
>> 
>> //===========--------- Module B ---------===========//
>> 
>> // Totally fine  
>> switch A.a {
>> case .a:
>>     print("done")
>> }
>> 
>> extension A {
>>     case aa // not allowed because the enum is closed
>> }
>> 
>> extension B {
>>     case bbb
>> }
>> 
>> switch B.b {
>> case .b:
>>     print("b")
>> default:  
>>     print("somethine else")
>> }
>> 
>> bar(b: B.bbb) // fine, because the switch statement on enums without  
>> // `@closed` has always`default`
>> 
>> // Allowed because `C` is open, and open allows sub-typing, conforming  
>> // and overriding to the client
>> enum SubC : C {
>>     case cc
>> }
>> 
>> let subC = 
>> SubC.cc
>> 
>> 
>> cool(c: subC) // okay
>> 
>> enum SubD : D {
>>     case dd
>> }
>> 
>> doo(d: D.dd)// error, downgrade sub-enum to D first
>> 
>> My point here is, that we should not think of (possible) open enums as enums 
>> that the client is allowed to extend. That way we’re only creating another 
>> inconsistent case for the open access modifier. As far as I can tell, open 
>> as for today means “the client is allowed to subclass/override things from a 
>> different module”. 
>> 
> Yes, but subclasses are analogous to enum cases.  A subtype of an enum would 
> remove cases.  I think you are misunderstanding the relationship of enums to 
> classes and protocols.
> 
>> And I already said it hundred of times that we should extend this to make 
>> open a true access modifier in Swift. That said the meaning of open should 
>> become:
>> 
>>      • The client is allowed to sub-type (currently only classes are 
>> supported).
>>      • The client is allowed to conform to open protocols
>>      • The client is allowed to override open type members
>> This also means that extensibility is still allowed to public types. 
>> Public-but-not-open classes are still extensible today, which is the correct 
>> behavior. Extending an enum which is not closed could or probably should be 
>> made possible through extensions, because I cannot think of anther elegant 
>> way for the client to do so. 
>> 
> This is what `open enum` would allow.  It is the proper enum analogue of open 
> classes.
> 
>> That will leave us the possibility to think of sub-typing enums in the 
>> future (I sketched it out a little above). 
>> 
> Value subtyping is very interesting.  I have been working on some ideas 
> around this but I want to keep this thread focused.
> 
>> If I’m not mistaken, every enum case is known at compile time,
>> 
> This is true today but will not always be true in the future.  That is in 
> large part what this thread is about.
> 
>> which means to me that we can safely check the case before allowing to 
>> assign or pass an instance of a sub-enum to some of its super-enum. 
>> (Downgrading an enum case means that you will have to write some code that 
>> either mutates your current instance or creates a new one which matches one 
>> of the super-enum cases.) Furthermore that allows a clear distinction of 
>> what open access modifier does and how @closed behaves.
>> 
> I'm not going to comment on the rest because it is premised on a 
> misunderstanding of what value subtyping is.  I'm going to share some ideas 
> around value subtyping in a new thread as soon as I have a chance to finish 
> putting them together.
> 
>> To summarize:
>> 
>>      • @closed enum - you’re not allowed to add new cases to the enum in 
>> your lib + (you’re allowed to create sub-enums)
>>      • @closed public enum - you and the client are not allowed to add new 
>> cases (+ the client is not allowed to create sub-enums)
>>      • @closed open enum - you and the client are not allowed to add new 
>> cases (+ the client might create new sub-enums)
>>      • enum - you’re allowed to add new cases (default is needed in switch 
>> statements) (+ you can create new sub-enums)
>>      • public enum - you and the client are allowed to add new cases (+ only 
>> you are allowed to create new sub-enums)
>>      • open enum - you and the client are allowed to add new cases (everyone 
>> can create new sub-enums)
>> This is a lot of bike shedding of mine, and the idea might not even see any 
>> light in Swift at all, but I’d like to share my ideas with the community. 
>> Feel free to criticize them or flesh something out into something real. :)
>> 
>> P.S.: If we had something like this:
>> 
>> @closed enum X {
>>     case x, y
>>     func foo() {
>>      switch self {
>>         case .x, .y:
>>             print("swift")
>>     }
>> }
>> 
>> enum Z : X {
>>     case z, zz
>>     override func foo() {
>>         // Iff `self` is `z` or `zz` then calling super will result in an 
>> error.
>>         // Possible solution: always tell the client to downgrade explicitly 
>> the  
>>         // case first if there is an attempt to call super (if mutating),  
>>         // or handle all cases
>> 
>>         switch self {
>>         case .z, .zz:
>>             print("custom work")
>>         default: // or all super-enum cases
>>             super.foo()
>>         }
>>     }
>> }
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Adrian Zubarev
>> Sent with Airmail
>> 
>> Am 11. Februar 2017 um 04:49:11, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution 
>> ([email protected]) schrieb:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I’ve been thinking a lot about our public access modifier story lately in 
>>> the context of both protocols and enums.  I believe we should move further 
>>> in the direction we took when introducing the `open` keyword.  I have 
>>> identified what I think is a promising direction and am interested in 
>>> feedback from the community.  If community feedback is positive I will 
>>> flesh this out into a more complete proposal draft.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Background and Motivation:
>>> 
>>> In Swift 3 we had an extended debate regarding whether or not to allow 
>>> inheritance of public classes by default or to require an annotation for 
>>> classes that could be subclassed outside the module.  The decision we 
>>> reached was to avoid having a default at all, and instead make `open` an 
>>> access modifier.  The result is library authors are required to consider 
>>> the behavior they wish for each class.  Both behaviors are equally 
>>> convenient (neither is penalized by requiring an additional boilerplate-y 
>>> annotation).
>>> 
>>> A recent thread 
>>> (https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20170206/031566.html)
>>>  discussed a similar tradeoff regarding whether public enums should commit 
>>> to a fixed set of cases by default or not.  The current behavior is that 
>>> they *do* commit to a fixed set of cases and there is no option (afaik) to 
>>> modify that behavior.  The Library Evolution document 
>>> (https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/docs/LibraryEvolution.rst#enums)
>>>  suggests a desire to change this before locking down ABI such that public 
>>> enums *do not* make this commitment by default, and are required to opt-in 
>>> to this behavior using an `@closed` annotation.
>>> 
>>> In the previous discussion I stated a strong preference that closed enums 
>>> *not* be penalized with an additional annotation.  This is because I feel 
>>> pretty strongly that it is a design smell to: 1) expose cases publicly if 
>>> consumers of the API are not expected to switch on them and 2) require 
>>> users to handle unknown future cases if they are likely to switch over the 
>>> cases in correct use of the API.
>>> 
>>> The conclusion I came to in that thread is that we should adopt the same 
>>> strategy as we did with classes: there should not be a default.
>>> 
>>> There have also been several discussions both on the list and via Twitter 
>>> regarding whether or not we should allow closed protocols.  In a recent 
>>> Twitter discussion Joe Groff suggested that we don’t need them because we 
>>> should use an enum when there is a fixed set of conforming types.  There 
>>> are at least two  reasons why I still think we *should* add support for 
>>> closed protocols.
>>> 
>>> As noted above (and in the previous thread in more detail), if the set of 
>>> types (cases) isn’t intended to be fixed (i.e. the library may add new 
>>> types in the future) an enum is likely not a good choice.  Using a closed 
>>> protocol discourages the user from switching and prevents the user from 
>>> adding conformances that are not desired.
>>> 
>>> Another use case supported by closed protocols is a design where users are 
>>> not allowed to conform directly to a protocol, but instead are required to 
>>> conform to one of several protocols which refine the closed protocol.  
>>> Enums are not a substitute for this use case.  The only option is to resort 
>>> to documentation and runtime checks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Proposal:
>>> 
>>> This proposal introduces the new access modifier `closed` as well as 
>>> clarifying the meaning of `public` and expanding the use of `open`.  This 
>>> provides consistent capabilities and semantics across enums, classes and 
>>> protocols.
>>> 
>>> `open` is the most permissive modifier.  The symbol is visible outside the 
>>> module and both users and future versions of the library are allowed to add 
>>> new cases, subclasses or conformances.  (Note: this proposal does not 
>>> introduce user-extensible `open` enums, but provides the syntax that would 
>>> be used if they are added to the language)
>>> 
>>> `public` makes the symbol visible without allowing the user to add new 
>>> cases, subclasses or conformances.  The library reserves the right to add 
>>> new cases, subclasses or conformances in a future version.
>>> 
>>> `closed` is the most restrictive modifier.  The symbol is visible publicly 
>>> with the commitment that future versions of the library are *also* 
>>> prohibited from adding new cases, subclasses or conformances.  
>>> Additionally, all cases, subclasses or conformances must be visible outside 
>>> the module.
>>> 
>>> Note: the `closed` modifier only applies to *direct* subclasses or 
>>> conformances.  A subclass of a `closed` class need not be `closed`, in fact 
>>> it may be `open` if the design of the library requires that.  A class that 
>>> conforms to a `closed` protocol also need not be `closed`.  It may also be 
>>> `open`.  Finally, a protocol that refines a `closed` protocol need not be 
>>> `closed`.  It may also be `open`.
>>> 
>>> This proposal is consistent with the principle that libraries should opt-in 
>>> to all public API contracts without taking a position on what that contract 
>>> should be.  It does this in a way that offers semantically consistent 
>>> choices for API contract across classes, enums and protocols.  The result 
>>> is that the language allows us to choose the best tool for the job without 
>>> restricting the designs we might consider because some kinds of types are 
>>> limited with respect to the `open`, `public` and `closed` semantics a 
>>> design might require.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Source compatibility:
>>> 
>>> This proposal affects both public enums and public protocols.  The current 
>>> behavior of enums is equivalent to a `closed` enum under this proposal and 
>>> the current behavior of protocols is equivalent to an `open` protocol under 
>>> this proposal.  Both changes allow for a simple mechanical migration, but 
>>> that may not be sufficient given the source compatibility promise made for 
>>> Swift 4.  We may need to identify a multi-release strategy for adopting 
>>> this proposal.
>>> 
>>> Brent Royal-Gordon suggested such a strategy in a discussion regarding 
>>> closed protocols on Twitter:
>>> 
>>> * In Swift 4: all unannotated public protocols receive a warning, possibly 
>>> with a fix-it to change the annotation to `open`.
>>> * Also in Swift 4: an annotation is introduced to opt-in to the new 
>>> `public` behavior.  Brent suggested `@closed`, but as this proposal 
>>> distinguishes `public` and `closed` we would need to identify something 
>>> else.  I will use `@annotation` as a placeholder.
>>> * Also In Swift 4: the `closed` modifier is introduced.
>>> 
>>> * In Swift 5 the warning becomes a compiler error.  `public protocol` is 
>>> not allowed.  Users must use `@annotation public protocol`.
>>> * In Swift 6 `public protocol` is allowed again, now with the new 
>>> semantics.  `@annotation public protocol` is also allowed, now with a 
>>> warning and a fix-it to remove the warning.
>>> * In Swift 7 `@annotation public protocol` is no longer allowed.
>>> 
>>> A similar mult-release strategy would work for migrating public enums.
>>> 
>>> A different line of feedback here:
>>> 
>>> As per previous reply, I now think if we clarify the mental model of the 
>>> access modifier hierarchy you're proposing and adopt or reject with that 
>>> clarity, we'll be fine whether we go with `closed` or with `@closed`. But I 
>>> don't think the source compatibility strategy you list is the most simple 
>>> or the most easy to understand for end users.
>>> 
>>> - I'll leave aside closed protocols, which as per Jordan Rose's feedback 
>>> may or may not have sufficient interestingness.
>>> - With respect to enums, I don't think we need such a drastic whiplash in 
>>> terms of what will compile in future versions. Instead, we could take a 
>>> more pragmatic approach:
>>> 
>>> 1. In Swift 4, remove the warning (or is it error?) about `default` cases 
>>> in switch statements over public enums. Simultaneously, add `closed` or 
>>> `@closed` (whatever is the approved spelling) and start annotating standard 
>>> library APIs. The annotation will be purely future-proofing and have no 
>>> functional effect (i.e. the compiler will do nothing differently for a 
>>> `closed enum` or `@closed public enum` (as the case may be) versus a plain 
>>> `public enum`).
>>> 2. In Swift 4.1, _warn_ if switch statements over public enums don't have a 
>>> `default` statement: offer a fix-it to insert `default: fatalError()` and, 
>>> if the enum is in the same project, offer a fix-it to insert `closed` or 
>>> `@closed`.
>>> 3. In Swift 5, upgrade the warning to an error for non-exhaustiveness if a 
>>> switch statement over a public enum doesn't have a `default` statement. 
>>> Now, new syntax to extend an `open enum` can be introduced and the compiler 
>>> can treat closed and public enums differently.
>>> 
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