My point would be to have a exact set of possible numerical cases. The issue 
with numerical cases is that they don’t have to be ordered and they could also 
be overlapping with other subsystems (by subsystem I mean a subsystem of your 
particular project).

Even if we had the ability to limit the range of numerical types like Int, we 
still might not be able to exclude inner values for that range, which makes 
RawRepresentable not quite efficient to work with. Numerical enum cases on the 
other hand could solve that issue elegantly.

I see the reason for types other because of FP and integer literals, but I 
don’t see why we couldn’t have numerical enum cases.



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Am 9. März 2017 um 08:52:34, Slava Pestov ([email protected]) schrieb:


On Mar 8, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Adrian Zubarev <[email protected]> 
wrote:

I don’t have more precise examples except something like TCP socket error codes 
as an enum.

I would expect that the error code is available as a computed property of the 
enum value, perhaps as its raw value or something else. I would not expect it 
to be part of the enum case *name*. What significance does the numeric code 
have to the reader of the code, and when do you ever want to permanently freeze 
error codes in an API like this?

Note that even Unix errno error codes are not standardized across unices or 
even different architectures running Linux; only their names are.

Slava

The example with the number literal is actually really good, because it also 
shows the bad sides of the pitch. However we could allow numerical enum cases 
without any issues right?




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Am 9. März 2017 um 08:41:13, Slava Pestov ([email protected]) schrieb:


On Mar 8, 2017, at 11:33 PM, Adrian Zubarev via swift-evolution 
<[email protected]> wrote:

I forget to mention, this should be also valid:

let `42` = 42

print(`42`)

struct A {
    let `0` = 0
}

let number = A().0

-1

This seems really confusing.

extension Int { var `0`: Int { return 0 } }

3.0 // is this a float literal?
3 .0 // member access?
.0 // this is actually a contextual member access, and not a literal ‘0.0’?

 I’d prefer if .0, .1, … were reserved for tuple fields; .0 is already not very 
descriptive, but at the very least if you see it in source code you know you 
have a tuple type and not something else.

Also the compiler’s name mangling relies on the fact that identifiers never 
begin with a numeric character or symbol.

Can you give a motivating example where allowing an identifier to start with a 
number actually helps readability?

Slava




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Am 9. März 2017 um 08:24:54, Adrian Zubarev ([email protected]) 
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Hi Swift community, I’d like to pitch this idea again.

Swift already has the pitched feature, but it is exclusive for tuples only. 
SE–0071 allowed the use of keywords after the . in a member access, except for 
those keywords that have special meaning by using back-ticks. However, members 
starting with numbers are not special keywords and as already mentioned, 
numerical members are already allowed in tuples.

I propose to extend that capability to the whole language and make that 
behavior consistent. To disambiguate members starting with a number one would 
need to use back-ticks.

// Enum
enum ErrorCode : String {
        
    case `2345` = "my description for 2345"
    case `123a` = "my description for 123a"
    case `123b` = "my description for 123b"
}

let code = ErrorCode.2345

// Function
func `42foo`(label: Type, `12345`: Type, `0987something`: Type) { … }

// Tuple
(`1`: Int, `2`: Int)
My question is: would that be in scope for Swift 4?



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