A further benefit of this scheme is that it makes the behavior of @objc on 
class members consistent between NSObject-derived and Swift-native classes. 
Right now, it is legal to apply @objc to a _member_ of a Swift-native class; 
this is what allows Swift-native classes to model @objc protocols and so on. 
But of course we don’t ever implicitly infer @objc on members of Swift-native 
classes just based on the calling convention of a method.

So now we could say that members of non-@objc classes only infer @objc if 
necessary to fulfill an override or protocol requirement, independently of 
whether the class is NSObject-derived or not; and @objc can now be applied to 
an entire class, as long as its NSObject-derived, to get the implicit inference 
behavior on members.

Slava

> On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:06 AM, Slava Pestov <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Here’s an idea for working around the problem of the lack of static knowledge 
> during migration. Probably it’s kind of tacky and won’t get much traction in 
> it’s current form, but it might start some useful discussion at least.
> 
> Right now, @objc when applied to a _class_ is completely useless; if a class 
> ultimately inherits from NSObject, it is always implicitly @objc, and 
> applying @objc to a class not rooted in NSObject is always an error. (I think 
> at some point in the past we allowed @objc classes that _don’t_ inherit from 
> NSObject, but I don’t know if that even made it into any released version of 
> Swift, so it’s totally vestigial at this point.) We can keep this behavior in 
> Swift 3 mode, but in Swift 4 mode, change things so that @objc applied to a 
> class enables @objc inference for the members of the class, and the absence 
> of @objc enables the new, more limited inference behavior outlined in this 
> proposal.
> 
> Then the migration story can just be “slap @objc on every NSObject-derived 
> class and you’re good”. Existing mixed source bases, KVC, and so on would 
> just work. We could also say that in Swift 4 mode, @objc on an 
> NSObject-derived class produces a warning asking the developer to consider 
> making individual members @objc as necessary instead. This would allow a 
> Swift 4 migration to proceed in two phases — first fix any fallout from 
> SE-0110 or new string stuff or whatever, and get a working app that builds 
> and runs in Swift 4 mode, albeit with some warnings. Then they can deal with 
> marking individual class members as @objc later. We could still have the 
> option of making it an error to apply @objc to an entire class in a future 
> release of Swift, if we decide it is beneficial to do so.
> 
> Based on feedback, the all-or-nothing nature of the Swift 2->3 migration was 
> rather painful — mixing and matching 3 and 4 modules will definitely help us 
> do better the next time around, and allowing a complex change such as this 
> one to be done piecemeal could be a further step in the right direction.
> 
> Slava
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:03 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Swift community, 
>> 
>> The review of "SE-0160: Limiting @objc inference" begins now and runs 
>> through March 28. The proposal is available here:
>> 
>>      
>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0160-objc-inference.md
>> 
>> Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. All reviews 
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>> 
>> 
>> What goes into a review?
>> 
>> The goal of the review process is to improve the proposal under review 
>> through constructive criticism and, eventually, determine the direction of 
>> Swift. When writing your review, here are some questions you might want to 
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>> 
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>> * Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to 
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>> * If you have you used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, 
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