We should evaluate the proposal in terms of what it can do not in "we are upset we are not getting that old proposal reverted" or "I want something else which I know I am not going to get".
Sorry if this is a bit direct, meant no offence. Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Apr 2017, at 01:05, Vladimir.S via swift-evolution > <[email protected]> wrote: > > If you don't want to resolve the mistake of SE-0025 by proposing a really > solution but not a workaround, then just leave the things where they are > currently. Proposed "improvement" IMO is more confusing than helping. > > Sorry, I don't buy <<..most of those proposals are not in scope for > discussion in Swift 4 (or any later release), given the significant impact on > source compatibility>>, because SE-0169 is also a source breaking change, and > the problem of access modifiers is important enough to relax the rule of > source compatibility for it, *especially if this is the last chance*. > Also, it seems like core team was ready to accept SE-0159(Fix Private Access > Levels) which also has impact on source compatibility(given it suggested to > remove scoped-private). > IMO SE-0159 + new 'scoped' keyword for scoped-private is the solution we need. > > So, -1 from me. > >> On 07.04.2017 2:10, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution wrote: >> Hello Swift community, >> >> The review of SE-0169 "Improve Interaction Between private Declarations and >> Extensions" begins now and runs through April 11, 2017. The proposal is >> available here: >> >> >> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0169-improve-interaction-between-private-declarations-and-extensions.md >> >> Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. All reviews >> should be sent to the swift-evolution mailing list at >> >> https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution >> >> or, if you would like to keep your feedback private, directly to the review >> manager. When replying, please try to keep the proposal link at the top of >> the message: >> >> Proposal link: >> >> >> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0169-improve-interaction-between-private-declarations-and-extensions.md >> >> Reply text >> >> Other replies >> >> >> >> <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md#what-goes-into-a-review-1>What >> goes into a review? >> >> The goal of the review process is to improve the proposal under review >> through constructive criticism and, eventually, determine the direction of >> Swift. When writing your review, here are some questions you might want to >> answer in your review: >> >> * What is your evaluation of the proposal? >> * Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change >> to Swift? >> * Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift? >> * If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, >> how do you feel that this proposal compares to those? >> * How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick >> reading, or an in-depth study? >> >> More information about the Swift evolution process is available at >> >> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md >> >> Thank you, >> >> -Doug >> >> Review Manager >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> swift-evolution mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution >> > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution _______________________________________________ swift-evolution mailing list [email protected] https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
